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So Long, Twitter and Reddit

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Re: So Long, Twitter and Reddit

#41

Post by theshrike79 »

dsir wrote: post #36
reactordev wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Discord is not a social platform. It's a chatroom for gamers, to share memes and voice chat while they play . It's not a base for documentation. It's not a platform for your next product (other than a bot..) launch. It's poorly designed for searching, for knowledge, for connecting. It's 2020s version of ICQ.

Part of the reason Discord falls short as a social platform is that each community is siloed off from the rest. There is no continuity bridging the overarching platform and userbase. I feel like for a social platform to work, the platform itself should be a community and the users should be able to carve out their own slice within that. I've been working on a platform that blends social features from Discord with the…

What if I specifically like the fact that the communities are siloed on Discord?

I don't want people from other circles accidentally ending up on my community just because they were bored and were browsing. I don't want my Discord server ending up on the results of some global search either.

Re: So Long, Twitter and Reddit

#42

Post by threeseed »

4dahalibut wrote: post #25

You can just unfollow people that engage in extreme language on Twitter, you won’t run out of people

The problem is that Musk changed the Following algorithm to reward engagement.

So you will inevitably get people who are more extreme and controversial.

And since they will soon disable blocking you won't be able to avoid them.

Re: So Long, Twitter and Reddit

#43

Post by gabereiser »

tmpX7dMeXU wrote: post #37
reactordev wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Discord is not a social platform. It's a chatroom for gamers, to share memes and voice chat while they play . It's not a base for documentation. It's not a platform for your next product (other than a bot..) launch. It's poorly designed for searching, for knowledge, for connecting. It's 2020s version of ICQ.

I find it utterly insufferable. I, a very technically capable person, really struggle with using Discord. I can’t help but feel that people that misuse Discord in this way are doing it from a place from extreme ignorance and hubris. It is so blatantly not intended or appropriate for what a bunch of people use it for. The only thing it has going for it is that the person setting up the community knows how to use it. I…

So long as you have the nitro.

I’m with you and I think it’s entirely ignorance and hubris. To be fair to discord, I think they know this. They know their product market fit, they know their audience. Their customers are those community managers that like shiny things and surveillance powers. The fault is entirely on those community managers thinking their customers would like it too.

Re: So Long, Twitter and Reddit

#44

Post by [deleted] »

callroomlamp wrote: post #31
kromem wrote: post #12

Lemmy has been surprisingly good as a Reddit replacement given the relative user counts. With 3rd party apps like Sync already migrated, you'd almost not even know you weren't just on Reddit.

Lemmy experience is quite satisfying. Took a moment to get used to the fediverse especially with multiple duplicate communities. Yet find myself doomscrolling much less and being more satisfied than Reddit. Still a small community though…

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Re: So Long, Twitter and Reddit

#45

Post by FeteCommuniste »

threeseed wrote: post #42
4dahalibut wrote: post #25

You can just unfollow people that engage in extreme language on Twitter, you won’t run out of people

The problem is that Musk changed the Following algorithm to reward engagement. So you will inevitably get people who are more extreme and controversial. And since they will soon disable blocking you won't be able to avoid them.

“Mute” works for me to avoid annoying users, including Musk hinself.

Re: So Long, Twitter and Reddit

#46

Post by browningstreet »

I often think about social media like this: I’m a quiet cafe and empty restaurant kind of guy. I hike trails and go to the gym at early hours because the vibe is right.

Social media is like the mall, or a stadium. Some people like going there, and do so often. They’re excited to see Taylor Swift with 80K other people. They go to the mall early on a weekday for a sneaker drop. I don’t get it but c’est la vie. That’s their life.

I don’t rant about the 80K people in the stadium for the big show. I’m sad there aren’t more quiet cafes. I spend time in countries where quiet cafes are more the norm. Maybe I’ll move there some day.

I’m also reminded by my parents who talk about the old country, or how grand it was to buy a house in LA in the 60s for $14K. Things change, eras end, we miss what was or what could have been. Tech stacks change, platforms and social spaces petrify, and our kids won’t care about any of these tomorrow.

I don’t have Twitter or Reddit accounts. And so it is.

Re: So Long, Twitter and Reddit

#48

Post by robobro »

tmpX7dMeXU wrote: post #37
reactordev wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Discord is not a social platform. It's a chatroom for gamers, to share memes and voice chat while they play . It's not a base for documentation. It's not a platform for your next product (other than a bot..) launch. It's poorly designed for searching, for knowledge, for connecting. It's 2020s version of ICQ.

I find it utterly insufferable. I, a very technically capable person, really struggle with using Discord. I can’t help but feel that people that misuse Discord in this way are doing it from a place from extreme ignorance and hubris. It is so blatantly not intended or appropriate for what a bunch of people use it for. The only thing it has going for it is that the person setting up the community knows how to use it. I…

I miss IRC, man... a Discord guild is a poor man's IRC server... a Matrix homeserver is a rich man's IRC server...

Re: So Long, Twitter and Reddit

#49

Post by judge2020 »

tmpX7dMeXU wrote: post #37
reactordev wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Discord is not a social platform. It's a chatroom for gamers, to share memes and voice chat while they play . It's not a base for documentation. It's not a platform for your next product (other than a bot..) launch. It's poorly designed for searching, for knowledge, for connecting. It's 2020s version of ICQ.

I find it utterly insufferable. I, a very technically capable person, really struggle with using Discord. I can’t help but feel that people that misuse Discord in this way are doing it from a place from extreme ignorance and hubris. It is so blatantly not intended or appropriate for what a bunch of people use it for. The only thing it has going for it is that the person setting up the community knows how to use it. I…

To be fair to the people running Discord, they've been trying to simplify and change it. But the existing user-base that knows the platform always pushes back against changes - such as loading screen tips being un-gamerified and the general design of promotional material going from being a gaming chat platform[0] to a general purpose chat thing[1]

0: https://rr.judge.sh/Chickadee/43748a/chrome_DXEAHYhlJF.png

1: https://discord.com/

Re: So Long, Twitter and Reddit

#50

Post by rvz »

The only alternative is to delete your social media accounts rather than replacing one social network with another.

Migrating to another social network does not solve the problem that Andrew is talking about.

It just prolongs the outrage and the addiction present in all social networks no matter their algorithm or users. Its exactly like suggesting to quit alcohol addiction by drinking a different brand of alcohol.

So the solution is to delete all your social media accounts and never look back.

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