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So Long, Twitter and Reddit

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Re: So Long, Twitter and Reddit

#131

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I find it utterly insufferable. I, a very technically capable person, really struggle with using Discord. I can’t help but feel that people that misuse Discord in this way are doing it from a place from extreme ignorance and hubris. It is so blatantly not intended or appropriate for what a bunch of people use it for. The only thing it has going for it is that the person setting up the community knows how to use it. I…

To be fair to the people running Discord, they've been trying to simplify and change it. But the existing user-base that knows the platform always pushes back against changes - such as loading screen tips being un-gamerified and the general design of promotional material going from being a gaming chat platform[0] to a general purpose chat thing[1] 0: https://rr.judge.sh/Chickadee/43748a/chrome_DXEAHYhlJF.png 1: https…

> To be fair to the people running Discord, they've been trying to simplify and change it.

Instead of focusing on worthless stickers and Nitro upgrades, how about they allow users to rebind keys for most, if not all, shortcuts on the desktop client.

Re: So Long, Twitter and Reddit

#132

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I find it utterly insufferable. I, a very technically capable person, really struggle with using Discord. I can’t help but feel that people that misuse Discord in this way are doing it from a place from extreme ignorance and hubris. It is so blatantly not intended or appropriate for what a bunch of people use it for. The only thing it has going for it is that the person setting up the community knows how to use it. I…

So long as you have the nitro. I’m with you and I think it’s entirely ignorance and hubris. To be fair to discord, I think they know this. They know their product market fit, they know their audience. Their customers are those community managers that like shiny things and surveillance powers. The fault is entirely on those community managers thinking their customers would like it too.

> So long as you have the nitro.

What do you mean? Nitro doesn't offer much besides using cross-server emojis and custom profiles.

Re: So Long, Twitter and Reddit

#133
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It’s it interesting how many meaningful conversations we’ve all had on IRC, lacking all those essential features you mention?

IRC is dead in any meaningful way, though. It's a decent technology that's lost to services with all those essential features. We also used to have great conversations while riding bikes with our friends when we were kids. Does that mean employers would be served to hold all of their meetings on bikes?

> IRC is dead in any meaningful way

False. IRC is still alive and kicking.

Re: So Long, Twitter and Reddit

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Discord is not a social platform. It's a chatroom for gamers, to share memes and voice chat while they play . It's not a base for documentation. It's not a platform for your next product (other than a bot..) launch. It's poorly designed for searching, for knowledge, for connecting. It's 2020s version of ICQ.

Exactly my use case. I admin a community of around 20 people that chat together about games and to pass the day at work sometimes. We post stupid stuff or interesting things to read. Some days pass by with zero messages, some are frenzied. We get in voice channels and chat and game together. I am a guest in other similarly sized circles' discord servers and this way I keep in touch with different groups. For this use…

> I admin a community of around 20 people that chat together about games and to pass the day at work sometimes.

This sounds cozy. Can I join?

Re: So Long, Twitter and Reddit

#135
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> Discord has been decent for a while. I suspect enshittification will commence soon, so we should be on the lookout for an alternative over the next five years. Discord's fine for what it is, but it's also a fundamentally different thing than social media or forums or a support-site. Projects that try to funnel everything onto Discord are (a) losing anyone who thinks joining an 800 person chatroom doesn't sound fun,…

We use Discord at my company. It was a compromise between us graybeards wanting email + issue tracker only and the new people wanting... Discord.

> the new people wanting... Discord.

Had they never heard of Slack?

Re: So Long, Twitter and Reddit

#136

> Discord has been decent for a while. I suspect enshittification will commence soon Discord was enshittified years ago. It's just that nothing really changed recently, unlike Twitter/Reddit, so it's not making the news. You've got a platform that's completely inaccessible without an account. Acquiring an account often requires handing over a mobile number. And Discord can then ban you arbitrarily, despite never post…

Goodness knows you can validly critise discord for any number of reasons but the time taken to log in on an untrusted device isn't really one that resonates with me. I have done this recently and the process took all of 5 seconds. Here's the process if you have a phone and want to do it fast: 1. Click login on discord on the untrusted device. It shows a qr code next to the credentials box. 2. Log in on phone (which f…

Has anyone figured out a way to remove the phone number attached to an account?

Re: So Long, Twitter and Reddit

#138
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We use Discord at my company. It was a compromise between us graybeards wanting email + issue tracker only and the new people wanting... Discord.

> the new people wanting... Discord. Had they never heard of Slack?

Doesn't slack have most of the same problems?

Re: So Long, Twitter and Reddit

#139

> Discord has been decent for a while. I suspect enshittification will commence soon, so we should be on the lookout for an alternative over the next five years. For folks who want to move their communities to a publicly accessible Matrix server, I'm building Shpong [0]. Heavy WIP obviously. The trend of moving to closed-off spaces is bad for the open web. I'm hoping we're able to reverse it, despite everyone wanting…

This looks like a really cool project. Is it open source?

Re: So Long, Twitter and Reddit

#140

> Discord has been decent for a while. I suspect enshittification will commence soon, so we should be on the lookout for an alternative over the next five years. For folks who want to move their communities to a publicly accessible Matrix server, I'm building Shpong [0]. Heavy WIP obviously. The trend of moving to closed-off spaces is bad for the open web. I'm hoping we're able to reverse it, despite everyone wanting…

This looks like a really cool project. Is it open source?

Yes it is.

https://github.com/commune-os/commune-server/

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