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PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Post by wood-porch »

inktype wrote: post #31

Windows and its ecosystem have already become a telemetry monster; if you're fine with everything else, you ought to be fine with this. The linked Intel support page shows the simple instructions for opting out of the telemetry. Having said that, 2022 was already the year of the Linux desktop. Everything works. KDE gets better every week. Be the owner of your technology. Join us!

Not in my experience. I was using a Dell work laptop recently and decided to use Linux instead of windows. Once I got things working mostly to my liking, I updated the GPU drivers and got a kernel panic. I’m lucky to be tech savvy so I can recuperate from that, but after that I asked for a MacBook and now have a solid daily driver that I can rely on, without having to spend hours looking for workarounds, crashes and kernel panics

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Post by [deleted] »

marcosdumay wrote: post #105
royal_ts wrote: post #46

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KDE is great but also very, very buggy. I'm using it since 2016 and some bugs just won't go away and good luck with openeing a bug report - nobody will care. Especially multi monitor support just isn't good. Multi window support is also, by default, not as good as Windows does it. Sicne a few updates I'm getting some polciykit errors everytime I'm doing anything session related just because - I have not found a solut…

Debian (stable) user here. I'm also scratching my head trying to understand what bugs you find on KDE. Or what kind of multi-monitor or window behavior you have a problem with when compared to Windows. (Isn't the default window behavior basically equal to Windows? I have never notice a difference in anything that I didn't change myself.) I too think you were unlucky on your combination of hardware-distro-setup in som…

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Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Post by momirlan »

apocalypstyx wrote: post #222
momirlan wrote: post #61

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> it creates a sense of complete and irreversible moral decay or, it is just another reflection of the "complete and irreversible moral decay that permeates all of society". the decay of any civilization is predictable and irreversible, and not a pretty sight...

Maybe we should stop re-positing the specific developments of contemporary capitalism with some generic notion of civilization. A civilization is not some 'national body' that grows, matures, and dies exactly analogous to a biological organism.

definitely not "national". but a civilization rises and then falls. it's a universal cycle, entropy at play.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Post by Aaron2222 »

nottorp wrote: post #295
gambiting wrote: post #199

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I'm a games developer - PS5/Xbox/Switch have excellent VS integration. And yes I mean the full fat VS.

Oh I didn't know that. Those versions aren't accessible for us plebs :)

If you're referring to Visual Studio, then Visual Studio Community[0] is free (for individuals and "non-enterprise organizations") and is equivalent to Visual Studio Professional.

[0]: https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/vs/community/

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Post by pdntspa »

iraqmtpizza wrote: post #342
pdntspa wrote: post #334

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Some of those design choices are pretty good, they stick around for good reason. Everything is a file/chaining together tiny commands/text-based configuration files are computing zen for a large portion of users. A lot of text config now has way more documentation -- right there above the freaking setting! -- than a Windows design analogy could ever cram into (never-used) help files. The majority of config I deal wit…

So what happens if you accidentally delete the comment in the text config? There's a parser that generates an error and recovers from there? Or it's just gone? LOL. Do you know how annoying it is to have to go into etc/netbeans.conf, scroll all the way down, then find the JDK path from somewhere else and paste it in the quotes after netbeans_jdkhome= just to get Netbeans to run? That's not computing zen! It's the rea…

LUG = Linux User's Group? That's more of a fan club...

If you accidentally delete the comments you can usually look the file up online, sometimes even just googling the name of the file will do the trick. Sometimes there's a default or template sitting right next to the file in its folder.

And I don't think you're going to find any arguments against your experience with Netbeans, at last recently. It's old software. New software doesn't just magically spring into being, it has to be written. And there's plenty of good replacements for NetBeans (I like IntelliJ) so I don't know what the issue is there. It's like calling Windows 3.1's Program Manager 'dated'... its like, well duh, of course its dated. It's old!

Also can't you just `echo $JDK_HOME` and paste that output into your config?

> The more people use your help files, the more you know your program sucks.

I really hate it when programs make important decisions for me. Having optionality kind of requires documentation, so one can understand the change they are trying to make. One man's intuitive is another man's pain in the ass. To say nothing of differences between culture, time period, training, or upbringing, that might change those assumptions.

If you want mindless information appliances, you are very likely holding one in your hand right now. Mobile is fantastic for that form of braindead design.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Post by caeril »

bee_rider wrote: post #157
hef19898 wrote: post #120

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Linux is great! And, thanks to Steam, a lot of games wirk as well. Not all, but most. Ubuntu, I haven't tried anything else so far, is a charm on Lenovo hardware. Update wise, it is were Windows was a couple of years ago. Meaning there are random updates that just kill and break certain functions. Happened last week, everything was running fine, including steam, as it always did. Until an update managed to delete the…

It is unfortunate that people recommended Ubuntu as a starting distro for so long. It does too much. It will update things for you, or give you a pop-up to tell you to update. Updates happen all at once, rather than a little at a time, so you get these big dramatic updates with combinatorial bug explosions. Maybe the repos will be gone if you don’t update in time. Maybe your favorite packages have moved from apt to s…

Agreed, Arch is likely the best introductory option, especially now that archinstall comes with the iso. Dead simple to install, and the documentation is fantastic for setting up the rest of your environment.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Post by bravetraveler »

dizhn wrote: post #310
tredre3 wrote: post #218

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> but they do exist. And here's the crux of it, isn't it? Unless it's accessible and enabled by default, it might as well not exist from the PoV of the end user. Windows' restore points happen automatically before updates or driver updates. Then you're prompted automatically to restore if Windows fails to boot after an update. As usual Linux has all the pieces but no desire to create UX to go with it. Which is a sham…

OpenSUSE Tumbleweed has this. The installer defaults to btrfs and snapshots using snapper. Snapshots are automatic before and after every package manager operation. Save for something that breaks grub, you can always recover.

In that spirit, if you have an EFI system, you don't need GRUB

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Post by bravetraveler »

nwallin wrote: post #344
mrguyorama wrote: post #182

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People are acting like Linus Sebastian and that other guy didn't JUST RECENTLY demonstrate Linux to still be a tough sell to non-linux gurus for daily driving.

He deliberately shitcanned his system to generate clicks. What are people going to say if an uppity linux fanboy youtuber shows himself deleting system32 and then crying about Windows is unusable for non-Windows gurus for daily driving? They're going to say he's an idiot and move on. When I instruct my package manager to uninstall your desktop environment, and the package manager says, "You are about to delete critic…

Let's not forget, that while he did kind of shrug and agree to remove everything... that was a problem in the packaging spec.

The package (Steam, if memory serves?) should not have had the other packages referenced as they were. The dependency/requirement resolution was faulty...

Then he didn't truly take in the message and this is the result we get.

There's plenty of "probably say no if you don't know what this means" in what he ignored. Fault is all over.

    - His distribution of choice [or] the repository supporting it
    - him for not reading and acting accordingly
    - sheer chance
Had he chosen another distribution at random, there's little chance that would have happened.

If he repeated it on the same one now, it wouldn't happen. When you choose a niche distribution, you get niche problems.

My entire family manages fine on 'bleeding edge' Fedora, yet it doesn't market itself this way. Packaging is specifically in their domain of expertise

This isn't to say Linux is for everyone, but I really wish for a more fair representation.

As the reporters they should have dug in a bit more. They become part of the problem, in a sense, by not clarifying where there truly be dragons.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Post by washadjeffmad »

okanat wrote: post #223
postmodest wrote: post #106

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There is a FreeBSD fork that does exactly that, but to use it you need to buy a $3000 hardware dongle.... That's the path a lot of Mac Users are on, though we also have a telemetry problem; the only advantage is that it stays "in house".

Mac has never been power user friendly.

> never

Oh, yes it was. The Macintosh was once a platform for independent professionals and small businesses to build their own software using native tooling. The add-in cards you could buy for the Apple II would shock you in today's anti-consumer ownership war being waged by vendors.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Post by boomboomsubban »

bravetraveler wrote: post #357
dizhn wrote: post #310

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OpenSUSE Tumbleweed has this. The installer defaults to btrfs and snapshots using snapper. Snapshots are automatic before and after every package manager operation. Save for something that breaks grub, you can always recover.

In that spirit, if you have an EFI system, you don't need GRUB

You sort of do if you want to boot kernels on btrfs. Refind is an option, but not most of the other EFI bootloaders.
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