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PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Then you will not be able to access some of the features that is advertised for the hardware you bought (like shadowplay).

While you can't use ShadowPlay you can use Nvidia's hardware encoding with software like OBS to do the same thing as ShadowPlay. Actually, it's even better because you can configure OBS to only do it in RAM.

A good portion of the overhead that ShadowPlay addresses is actually video capture, not just encoding/compression - but IME it's true that even NVENC on its own can take a good load off the CPU.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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One of the huge sells of ShadowPlay is that it doesn't place extra burden on Windows to capture the screen every frame, instead it directly captures the actual framebuffer (and encodes the frames) directly on the GPU, without having to switch or bottleneck any rendering code paths. It wouldn't surprise me if people who swear by ShadowPlay can tell the performance difference compared to software screen capture. Basica…

I don't think you're going to be running into much performance difference between the two. People say GameCapture already grabs the frame buffer, but I can't say whether that's true or not.

Most likely, different framebuffer - ShadowPlay grabs the exact frames sent to the physical monitor while GameCapture intercepts it in software (most likely anyway, if it doesn't use the Nvidia-specific APIs that ShadowPlay does). The former doesn't require inserting any extra steps into the rendering pipeline, so it's generally faster (sometimes by a lot).

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Am I the only person who thinks that this sort of telemetry is a good thing? It helps the user if telemetry provides reports of bugs and performance issues that help improve the product. It is a benefit to me that if a program keeps crashing, the responsible team will see this and be motivated to fix the bug. (I also like the thought that teams that write bad code will get embarrassed in meetings by bad telemetry num…

Telemetry can indeed be very useful in a way that benefits everyone.

But that doesn't make it right if it's done without the user's informed consent.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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yeah because clicking through half a dozen nested dialogs to change my DNS settings is good fucking design Or even better, for many things the option doesn't exist any more? Why? Because fuck you thats why! I just LOVE watching Windows take away features because some normie asshole decided options were bad for usability and testing. Typing this on my Windows daily driver, btw. And I have to drop into CLI on a pretty…

Tree structures are terrible design, yes. They shouldn't teach trees in computer science. Everything should be flat. Just like the Earth. I love watching Linux stay stuck on design choices from 1970 because to change the interface now would cause the operating system to implode and the resulting riot would exceed even the asspain over systemd

Some of those design choices are pretty good, they stick around for good reason. Everything is a file/chaining together tiny commands/text-based configuration files are computing zen for a large portion of users.

A lot of text config now has way more documentation -- right there above the freaking setting! -- than a Windows design analogy could ever cram into (never-used) help files. The majority of config I deal with is like 25 lines of comments for every 1 line of setting.

Systemd's not that bad either, I will take writing systemd config files over trying to make a service daemon in init.d scripts any day of the week.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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> Everything just works No it doesn't. Every Linux desktop requires me to spend hours tweaking things or finding workarounds to make it usable for myself. Window management is horrible compared to other OS. Fractional scaling mostly doesn't work. The Pomodoro timer in the "Software" store is no longer maintained and doesn't work at all on the latest Gnome. (Windows 11 has it built-in). Even so, I have to live with ce…

It takes me days to make Windows usable for myself by hosing all the garbage off it. And it's still a miserable experience. On the other hand, if I just install a batteries included Linux distro I get something I'm not necessarily thrilled about, but I can go pretty much straight to work. And if I spend a few days, I can set up a system that's exactly tailored the way I want it to be, eats an order of magnitude less…

Sure, attempting to make Windows into Linux by “decrapifying” it is harder, but if you use Windows as intended and upload all your documents to Microsoft’s cloud it is easier for the vast vast majority of users.

Windows breaking itself with updates is less a symptom of Windows and more of a side-effect of “decrapification”. I’ve seen a pretty damn large sample size of windows users undergoing windows updates and Windows Update does really not break computers other than by annoyingly changing your defaults to Microsoft stuff “woops, by accident” but if you do stuff like use Edge as your default browser it stops breaking.

Apple forces you to use their defaults, Microsoft theirs, and Google theirs. When you accept these companies operating system is not Linux, and stop acting like they are Linux, and stop acting like you own your windows PC, they do become pretty simple to use.

If you want a PC you can own, you use Linux. Linux is great. My grandmother uses Microsoft Windows in S mode with edge as her browser. Her photos get backed up. She only uses Edge at 175% DPI scaling and maybe looks up a few family photos. It is easier for her than using Linux because she’s familiar with it and because nobody has taught her that unless she is using Windows for education without a decrapify script she is doing things all wrong.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Yeah, forgive me for thinking that people need to meet the computer halfway. I keep forgetting that most are too stupid that they cannot be trusted to make effective use of such powerful machines.

> forgive me for thinking that people need to meet the computer halfway Seems like a very defeatist attitude to have..

Defeatist? How? We don't just put anyone in a vehicle, they have to have a license. That's a bit much for a computer but what is wrong with having to learn?

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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Telemetry is wrong if it's happening without my informed consent. What data is being collected doesn't affect that. If you're collecting data about me, my machine, or my use of my machine without my informed consent, you are spying.

>If you're collecting data about me, my machine, or my use of my machine without my informed consent, you are spying. What if I collect data about the way you use my software? As a dev im using telemetry to provide better product for my users

> What if I collect data about the way you use my software?

That's collecting data about me, my machine, or my use of my machine. If you aren't getting people's informed consent before you do this, you're spying. If you have consent, then that's people sharing data with you and isn't spying.

> As a dev im using telemetry to provide better product for my users

Cool. I'm not saying you shouldn't. I'm just saying that you should ask first.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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>> Everything works. I'm a video games developer. Neither PS5, Xbox nor Switch toolchains work under linux - not to mention that actual proper Visual Studio doesn't and that alone is worth staying on windows for. For playing games though - sure, Linux is already great. Steam Deck proves that by playing pretty much everything flawlessly.

>For playing games though - sure, Linux is already great. Steam Deck proves that by playing pretty much everything flawlessly. The caveat is that this is only true when applied to games on Steam . I play games that aren't on Steam, and I've not even bothered to see if they would run on Linux because it's just not worth my time. (No, I do not expect something in Japanese that communicates with DMM Game Player for user…

>>The caveat is that this is only true when applied to games on Steam. I play games that aren't on Steam, and I've not even bothered to see if they would run on Linux because it's just not worth my time.

I play Diablo 4 on my steam deck and it's so little effort to install it - you install Lutris, install battle.net and then it just works, you can launch it directly from the Steam Deck UI.

Re: PSA: Intel Graphics Drivers Now Collect Telemetry by Default

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If you didn't have that attitude you could have learned that stuff in the last 6 months and then you wouldnt have to worry about it. Also, "power user friendly" but hates CLI..... I see. You might have to hand in your power user card over that one I am a diehard windows user but the OS's affinity for burying settings in nested, labyrinthine setting dialogs gets old super fast.

"You could have learned that stuff in the last 6 months" "You might have to hand in your power user card over that one" And these attitudes are why most consumers almost exclusively use proprietary software. You have to let people be lazy to get mass adoption. Businesses know and exploit this, the foss world writes tools with steep learning curves and says "take it or leave it." And that's perfectly fine as long as w…

And when you look around you and realize that everything sucks, now you know why.

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