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Call yourself a 'brogrammer'? Then get the hell away from me.

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#111

I actually have "Polyglot Brogrammer" as my headline on LinkedIn in the hope that recruiters leave me alone. It hasn't worked.

If you're trying to get recruiters to leave you alone, why are you using LinkedIn?

This implies that the only use of LinkedIn is to be courted by recruiters.

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#112
maybe "brogrammers" are just bros first, programmers second. i know plenty of guys who were "bros" that are now developers. why can't you people just let them be who they want to be and live their life?

i'm pretty sure the guy in the hot tub full of women is getting very upset with the trash people are talking about him on the internet. i'm sure he's taking time away from watching football and drinking natty lite to pen a witty response.

how about you all stop clinging to a false sense of identity , live, and let live?

Re: Call yourself a 'brogrammer'? Then get the hell away from me.

#113

One thing I've always liked about programming is the technical culture of getting things done. What offends me about this 'brogrammer' idea is that it tries to turn programming into yet another fashion. "We're the cool programmers" is particularly offensive because it alienates people who have been doing work in this area for some time. I can understand wanting to refine your image but do it without slapping labels o…

Perhaps it's a way of asserting some sort of superiority if you discover that you are really just a mediocre programmer. Like saying "I don't understand haskell but that's cool because I can totally bong a bear unlike you losers"

i love bear bonging.

Re: Call yourself a 'brogrammer'? Then get the hell away from me.

#114

I actually have "Polyglot Brogrammer" as my headline on LinkedIn in the hope that recruiters leave me alone. It hasn't worked.

If you're trying to get recruiters to leave you alone, why are you using LinkedIn?

In an age when prospective employers often want to see your social-network profile, LinkedIn makes an excellent honeypot.

Re: Call yourself a 'brogrammer'? Then get the hell away from me.

#115

One thing I've always liked about programming is the technical culture of getting things done. What offends me about this 'brogrammer' idea is that it tries to turn programming into yet another fashion. "We're the cool programmers" is particularly offensive because it alienates people who have been doing work in this area for some time. I can understand wanting to refine your image but do it without slapping labels o…

Perhaps it's a way of asserting some sort of superiority if you discover that you are really just a mediocre programmer. Like saying "I don't understand haskell but that's cool because I can totally bong a bear unlike you losers"

But most Real programmers don't understand Haskell either. Every time someone succeeds in understanding Haskell, an alarm rings by SPJ's bed, signaling him to publish another semantic and type-system extension to GHC.

Re: Call yourself a 'brogrammer'? Then get the hell away from me.

#116

I can see why a lot of people seem to dislike this particular stereotype, but I'd like to remind them they are equally falling prey to stereotypical discrimination when they are looking to hire "geeks" or "nerds". My main OS is Ubuntu, I'm comfortable with half a dozen programming languages, my editor of choice is Vim, I built a Linux distribution for fun, I just wrote a K-means algorithm implementation in Javascript…

It's a spectrum. I'm a complete stereotypical "geek" who aspires to enter academic research, and yet the #1 thing I want to do this week is go to a punk rock concert. The thing that kept me going through a period of depression this fall was attending Occupy Boston.

Nobody is just one thing. I don't understand why America as a whole has such a trouble with this concept, in school and then in the working world too (look at "professionalism" and "dedication" from the eyes of someone who has more than one personal facet than their job).

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#117

I call Poe's Law :). I have had so much fun with the brogrammer stereotype - developer jocks do exist and are quite common. We considered changing the name of our local developer meetup group from "Nerdy Food Meetups" to something "cooler" like Hungry Hackers, but we decided against it, lest the name prove too inviting for brogrammers. So far: success. The group has been 100% self-selective for nerds.

Kind of interesting.. excluding people not based on their qualifications (or ability to contribute), but based on their willingness to self-identify as a nerd. Doesn't seem very welcoming..

Re: Call yourself a 'brogrammer'? Then get the hell away from me.

#118
Some of the people in this thread need to think carefully about why it is they think what they do about some of these issues. Lumping all women together into an anti-sexually free, prudish bunch is horribly insulting.

If you want to attack "brogrammers" because their attitude annoys you, or you don't like their style (which I completely agree with. I personally find the style completely obnoxious) that's one thing. Those of you attacking them because they like sex, women, porn, naked parties, etc. - please stop to think about who and what you are painting with that wide, wide brush. I can assure you that the women I know in the BDSM, poly, swinger, sex club, goth/industrial, alt porn and other largely sex-positive communities would be offended not only by your generalizations that women do not like these things, but offended /at your offense./ Additionally, many of those women are not only in those communities, but some of them happen to be systems admins, developers, and hold other technical positions.

Please do not conflate "prudish people" with "women." The above mentioned communities will thank you.

Re: Call yourself a 'brogrammer'? Then get the hell away from me.

#119

I call Poe's Law :). I have had so much fun with the brogrammer stereotype - developer jocks do exist and are quite common. We considered changing the name of our local developer meetup group from "Nerdy Food Meetups" to something "cooler" like Hungry Hackers, but we decided against it, lest the name prove too inviting for brogrammers. So far: success. The group has been 100% self-selective for nerds.

Kind of interesting.. excluding people not based on their qualifications (or ability to contribute), but based on their willingness to self-identify as a nerd. Doesn't seem very welcoming..

How is it different from excluding (bro)grammers based on their unwillingness to self-identity as a nerd, despite their qualifications?
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