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FWIW, only 17 people turned up in a people search for "brogrammer" in LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/search/fpsearch?type=people&keyw... That compares with more than 914,000 results for a people search of "programmer"
To be honest, I can't think of any bigger red flag on a LinkedIn profile than being a self-declared brogrammer.
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I thought so too, but the word I hear from people I know at Facebook (where the term originated) indicate that the people who started this are pretty dead serious about the concept. Thankfully I work with no brogrammers - this might actually start being a hiring disadvantage if companies are known to be brogrammer-heavy.
It's a very useful indicator that the company is looking to hire barely-sentient PHP monkeys rather than actual programmers to solve interesting problems.
This is nothing new, back in ~2004 when I was at university for CS there were plenty of students who were desperate to shed the "nerdy" image and would compensate taking up macho hobbies like bodybuilding , playing metal music, martial arts or motorcycling or by drinking large amounts and getting high every weekend. The whole brogrammer meme reminds me a lot of DHH. Whenever you see him speak he is always dressed and…
Is there really a problem with nerds being groomed well and fashionably dressed? The people they describe are off-putting because of their attitude, not because their appearance clashes with the archetypal image of a nerd.
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Now that I think of it, there was actually a YC company's recruiting post on HN that used it (not entirely clear how seriously), which created a bit of a backlash: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3168038 I think it's probably not a good recruiting strategy, because it telegraphs both that this might be a problematic opening for women, and that anyone worried they'll be deemed too egghead/nerdy might want to pass.…
I'm not sure if I agree with you. I think a lot of people are repulsed by the idea of spending a career surrounded by the "programmer" stereotype (i.e. monomaniacal, male , introverts). Part of me wonders whether advertising a more traditionally social work environment might not attract a lot of talent that doesn't fit the "programmer" mold (including women!).
I find this image of regular programmers nearly as offensive as the faux geek imagine hipsters try to acquire while wearing cheap prescription glasses they don't need.
I actually have "Polyglot Brogrammer" as my headline on LinkedIn in the hope that recruiters leave me alone. It hasn't worked.
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It's a very useful indicator that the company is looking to hire barely-sentient PHP monkeys rather than actual programmers to solve interesting problems.
I've never heard that about Facebook, only the opposite: they hire awesome programmers, and then teach them PHP. Certainly, any Facebook developers I've met (online or in real life) have been pretty awesome, though my sample size is in the single digits.
Do they self-identify as "brogrammers?" If so, did they do so before joining Facebook or only after the fact?
The self-described bro in the linked article appears to only "program" in PHP according to his own website, so I think my assumption that he's just a monkey is fair.
From Urban Dictionary: brogrammer, n.: A programmer who breaks the usual expectations of quiet nerdiness and opts instead for the usual trappings of a frat-boy: popped collars, bad beer, and calling everybody "bro". Despised by everyone, especially other programmers. Ex: Oh my god, John is talking about football and chicks again. That guy is such a brogrammer. See also: programmer, frat boy, bro, douchebag, developer…
This is nothing new, back in ~2004 when I was at university for CS there were plenty of students who were desperate to shed the "nerdy" image and would compensate taking up macho hobbies like bodybuilding , playing metal music, martial arts or motorcycling or by drinking large amounts and getting high every weekend. The whole brogrammer meme reminds me a lot of DHH. Whenever you see him speak he is always dressed and…
Care to elaborate? You say it like it's obvious to everyone that being into those manuals is a heinous crime, or at least prima facie evidence of humongous douchebagdom in a person.
Huh, I had thought the "brogrammer" thing was a parody, not a serious self-description. I usually run across variants of the descriptor "bro-ish" as derogatory, not something people actually want to call themselves; for example, "brostep" is a derogatory term for a subgenre of dubstep that dubstep purists don't like, not something people proudly call their own music. But I'm admittedly totally out of this particular…
I thought so too, but the word I hear from people I know at Facebook (where the term originated) indicate that the people who started this are pretty dead serious about the concept. Thankfully I work with no brogrammers - this might actually start being a hiring disadvantage if companies are known to be brogrammer-heavy.