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Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by PrimeMcFly »

nerdbert wrote: post #333
PrimeMcFly wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most subreddits doing polls have people voting to remain open, so it really isn't in the interests of the communities to keep the subs closed. The ones who don't like the changes are leaving anyway.

I sure haven't seen that. The subs that I participate in regularly which have remained closed, have had polls and/or discussions about it, and the members overwhelmingly agreed with the moderators. Maybe it depends on how strong the particular community is.

I agree it depends on the community. r/stargate for example is pretty tied but the option to stay open is ahead by about 100 votes.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by PrimeMcFly »

neoromantique wrote: post #337
PrimeMcFly wrote: post #268

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That's all fine and well. I mod a couple of large subs but I exclusively use desktop so I'm not affected. I just don't think mods should be ending the communities, most of which they didn't start themselves. Let other people who don't share their issues take over.

>large subs >I exclusively use desktop so I'm not affected [Doubt]

lol why?

I use old.reddit with RES, toolbox and some ublock rules and all is good.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by anigbrowl »

lazystar wrote: post #233
ulrashida wrote: post #159

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Wager more care about corporations pushing around a volunteer workforce, though. I'm genuinely surprised by the fatalistic / why bother attitudes expressed here on HN, as if those attitude aren't the dominant factor enabling those outcomes.

A lot of folks here will commiserate with reddit's position - Microsoft and Google and ChatGPT are making billions from programs that were built using data gleamed from reddit's API's, and they didnt have to provide reddit with a single penny in return. Reddit has to do something to prevent the gold rush of data mining that is bound to occur from other companies building their own copycat LLM's.

Reddit wants to make money off user-generated content. To my mind this is like a paper manufacturer claiming it has a copyright interest in any printed matter than ends up attached to its product.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by yanderekko »

plandis wrote: post #250
paulddraper wrote: post #95

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Doesn't seem dishonest to me. Reddit cares more about having an open subreddit then the mods do. This was the obvious conclusion

Why should I trust the CEO who was just recently caught in a lie about blackmail despite evidence to the contrary and in the past has straight up edited people’s comments without any notification that Reddit is responsible for the edits?

What does CEO trust have to do with any of this?

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by JoyfulTurkey »

SethKinast wrote: post #418
JoyfulTurkey wrote: post #413

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I haven't been paying close attention to all of the spez/Apollo stuff, was there actually any evidence from either side? Last I saw it was mostly just each party posting contradictory text in replies.

Yes, Christian (legally) recorded all calls with Reddit and published them.

Ah nice, I will follow up on that. Thanks for the info!

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by [deleted] »

tinus_hn wrote: post #167
mtc010170 wrote: post #84

Watch out folks - critical discussions about Reddit seem to be getting flagged as flame bait. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36347400 Idk why. We should be able to have a civilized, intellectually curious discussion about this. The future of Reddit (and its implications for the future of the Internet) is pretty on-topic to me for HN. @dang can we get a stance on this?

It’s quite possible that people are just flagging these stories because it’s not interesting enough to facilitate 20 discussions without it turning into threads with 500 comments rehashing the same arguments. Reddit might be a big deal to you but many people over here just don’t care and they don’t want to see topic after topic about a site they don’t care about. And it’s going to have the same impact on the ‘future…

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Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by yanderekko »

0xParlay wrote: post #299

Reddit clearly doesn't understand the product. When users join a sub it's because they like the content and tacitly approve of the moderation. All but new users are aware that subs are governed by mods. Installing a corporate-approved mod panel because a community isn't acting in Reddit Inc's financial best interest is to light the whole product on fire. What's the point of starting a new sub if it'll be repurposed a…

>Reddit clearly doesn't understand the product. When users join a sub it's because they like the content and tacitly approve of the moderation.

How can this "tacit approval" be applied to mods but not the admin policies that constrain the mods? I participate on plenty of subreddits where the mods are clearly despicable; however, there are simply no viable alternatives in terms of the actual community content.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by gretch »

dTal wrote: post #386
gretch wrote: post #366

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We’ve only had this communication capability for the last .01% of human existence. Even 150 years ago, if you wanted to communicate with anyone outside your town, you had to pay a horse based courier what was most likely a very expensive fee. Not to mention the millions of years before that. Did all these previous generations find less satisfaction in life? Well who knows but I argue not. We don’t have to structure o…

>Even 150 years ago, if you wanted to communicate with anyone outside your town, you had to pay a horse based courier what was most likely a very expensive fee. Last month was the 150th anniversary of the introduction of the first government "postal card", in New York City. They cost a penny each and sold 200,000 in two and a half hours. https://postalmuseum.si.edu/exhibition/america%E2%80%99s-mai...

Was this meant as a retort?

If so can we just pretend I said 200 instead of 150? I feel like that’s pretty much the same thing given that both are but a drop in the ocean of total human existence.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by faeriechangling »

lazystar wrote: post #114
concinds wrote: post #74

The dishonesty continues. > if they are no longer interested in moderating that community They're still interested. They're just protesting your policies. > [if] at least one mod [...] wants to keep the community going, we will respect their decisions and remove those who no longer want to moderate from the mod team. This one takes the cake. They're dangling a carrot: hey, any low-ranked mod interested in taking over…

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They’re moderating the admins with an enforcement action, and it’s the uncommon moderator that isn’t pushing an agenda with their moderation.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by yanderekko »

EA-3167 wrote: post #87
CincinnatiMan wrote: post #69

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There are likely hundreds if not thousands of users who would be willing to become mods of each of the subreddits that are still in private mode. I know I would mod some of the subs I find useful.

How do you tell a willing user with the intention to keep a sub running as is, and a willing user who just wants to burn it all down, turn it into their own fiefdom, or worse? What's the ratio of the former to the latter, and does Reddit have the manpower to tell to the difference on a time frame that keeps the subs alive? What's the impact of a bunch of people who know how the sausage is made being essentially coup'…

>How do you tell a willing user with the intention to keep a sub running as is, and a willing user who just wants to burn it all down, turn it into their own fiefdom, or worse?

Reddit has replaced mods before. This isn't a new problem, the only novelty here is its scale.

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