This isn't remotely surprising and I called it from the very start of the controversy.
It was clear reddit wasn't going to budge, and since they control the platform, there was only one way this would end.
Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts
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#132Notice how Reddit changes the rules without changing the rules.
“It is your commanding officers wish, which is the best type of order.”
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#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes! And they're so incredibly cheap to run, in the scheme of things. They're TEXT and LINKS ffs. Even Snapchat, which deals in video, costs about $2.50 per user per year to run. Honestly, we're some set of dopes to let people like Zuck and Huffman build yachts and apocalypse bunkers, with bloody advertising money, all for the genius idea of sharing text and links on the internet.
At scale that’s relatively expensive though, $2.5x1billion is still 2.5 billion dollars. That money needs to come from somewhere…
Membership fees. If we could get customers used to buying things again, $10/yr or $100/lifetime membership fees seems more than reasonable.
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#134We (the internet community) made such a terrible mistake with social media. We formed connections and communities and friendships on sites like Facebook and Twitter and Reddit, but those companies need to make money, so those connections are only allowed to exist as long as they are part of a profitable system. How awful it is to reduce human connection to that. To think that I am only allowed to maintain certain soc…
Yes! And they're so incredibly cheap to run, in the scheme of things. They're TEXT and LINKS ffs. Even Snapchat, which deals in video, costs about $2.50 per user per year to run. Honestly, we're some set of dopes to let people like Zuck and Huffman build yachts and apocalypse bunkers, with bloody advertising money, all for the genius idea of sharing text and links on the internet.
Well there are pictures and video too.
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#135Ah the classic beatings will continue until morale improves approach. Starting to think Reddit leadership is genuinely not all that sharp
There are likely hundreds if not thousands of users who would be willing to become mods of each of the subreddits that are still in private mode. I know I would mod some of the subs I find useful.
They can sure try. Getting a mod team that gels well and keeps the community functional is non trivial though in my experience especially for tricky subs like politics
Dropping a couple randoms in is at best a roll of the dice
I personally wouldn’t want that roll across a large number of subs if I were ceo but I’m not so maybe we’ll get to see how that plays out
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#136We (the internet community) made such a terrible mistake with social media. We formed connections and communities and friendships on sites like Facebook and Twitter and Reddit, but those companies need to make money, so those connections are only allowed to exist as long as they are part of a profitable system. How awful it is to reduce human connection to that. To think that I am only allowed to maintain certain soc…
Perhaps this is a more a reflection of our current state of development as a species than a mistake we consciously chose to make. As gross as Reddit's behavior has been, it doesn't change the reality that nothing at all in this scarcity-based economy is free.
“Is capitalism at fault? No, surely it’s the kids!”
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#137I think the blackout is a huge overreaction. They should try to phase it out to not financially damage app creators who now have to issue $10k-100k+ in refunds, but otherwise, there is far more disruption from the blackouts than having to switch to the official reddit mobile app.
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#139We (the internet community) made such a terrible mistake with social media. We formed connections and communities and friendships on sites like Facebook and Twitter and Reddit, but those companies need to make money, so those connections are only allowed to exist as long as they are part of a profitable system. How awful it is to reduce human connection to that. To think that I am only allowed to maintain certain soc…
What gives me hope is if you ever take a break from social media you realize how worthless it all is. It really doesn’t hurt to disengage.
For similar reasons it’s possible for new networks to show up which disrupt the old, such as TikTok.
The point is as individuals we are way less dependent on social media than we imagine.
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#140The dishonesty continues. > if they are no longer interested in moderating that community They're still interested. They're just protesting your policies. > [if] at least one mod [...] wants to keep the community going, we will respect their decisions and remove those who no longer want to moderate from the mod team. This one takes the cake. They're dangling a carrot: hey, any low-ranked mod interested in taking over…
Most subreddits doing polls have people voting to remain open, so it really isn't in the interests of the communities to keep the subs closed.
The ones who don't like the changes are leaving anyway.