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Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by greiskul »

Narkov wrote: post #154
epicureanideal wrote: post #133

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Membership fees. If we could get customers used to buying things again, $10/yr or $100/lifetime membership fees seems more than reasonable.

So easy to say, so hard to actually do. Most HN readers wouldn't care about dropping $100 but the fact is Facebook, Reddit, Google users pay $0.

Youtube gives you the option. Do you want no ads? Pay for Youtube Premium. I do not need to engage in a hostile user vs platform agaisnt Youtube, with me searching for better adblocks, and youtube trying to figure out how to block the adblockers, cause they go and give me the option. I doubt that reddit would be getting the pushback they are getting if they had come out with some sensible numbers per user, that people are actually ok with paying.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by George83728 »

bmhin wrote: post #48
brucethemoose2 wrote: post #14

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Discord, where everything will be siloed off and then enshittified again :(

That is my prediction as well. It's unfortunate as we'll enter the unindexed web where all that helpful content you can find by appending "reddit" onto any search will no longer be getting produced. All of it hidden in discords, out of sight. Who knows, maybe there will be an easy way to get stuff published out to the proper web. Things like community FAQs or guides that would be broadly of use. I think the loss of t…

Discord is "where information goes to die", so for that reason I think there's relatively little risk of lock-in from discord. The history there might as well not exist, so there's less reason to stick around instead of jumping to a new platform when discord is inevitably enshittened.

I do wish discord were federated. That's my main gripe with discord, it's not federated and I can't bring my own client like I could on IRC. Oh well, with luck the enshittification will happen soon to put people into the mood for trying something new. Advocating for something like Matrix to discord users now is hopeless, just pissing into the wind. I've tried it, but nobody cares about problems they might have with discord in the future when it's working fine today.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by jpcfl »

dom96 wrote: post #44
jpcfl wrote: post #15

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This reminds me of the Great Digg Migration. If there was ever a time to promote Mastadon, it's now.

Mastodon is more of a Twitter replacement, no?

I'm not overly familiar with Mastodon (hence the typo in my comment), but my understanding is that it's a place to browse, share, and discuss content. The UI does appear to be more like Twitter.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by addandsubtract »

phalangion wrote: post #305
LexiMax wrote: post #285

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> Most subreddits doing polls have people voting to remain open I still see pro-blackout threads regularly shooting to the top of /r/all - which wouldn't get that far if they were down-voted by an angry populace.

I wonder if many of those most upset about the changes (and therefore pro-blackout) have also stopped visiting Reddit in protest. I know I fall into that camp.

Same. Any poll posted to reddit is useless, because it's only seen by the people still going to reddit and want to see it reopened.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by michaelmrose »

dannyphantom wrote: post #190

I suppose this will be a litmus test on how valuable long-established moderators are to the platform. At the end of the day, they are volunteers who are now boarding themselves behind the property of their digital landlord so the risk of eviction isn't really all that surprising. I've seen endless complaints from users who feel personally offended by being muted/banned from a community and a common response to their…

The community is the only worthwhile thing about reddit. Their IP is simply awful garbage that could be profitably replaced with their own old open source code and their leadership is full of the kind of folks who think they can hire a sex offender then silence community outrage.

The last thing they own is hardware not valuable enough to pay severance if a substantial portion of the community leaves.

Worse the folks they are threatening are the tiny minority that are most liable to walk away with that value.

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Post by gretch »

rtpg wrote: post #217
harryf wrote: post #139

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What gives me hope is if you ever take a break from social media you realize how worthless it all is. It really doesn’t hurt to disengage. For similar reasons it’s possible for new networks to show up which disrupt the old, such as TikTok. The point is as individuals we are way less dependent on social media than we imagine.

I mean I get that for absent-minded browsing but even just...having a hobby and talking about it with people feels pretty much like Normal Person Behavior(TM) and Reddit's subreddits worked well for that in the same way that forums in the past did. Not the end of the world but as a kid who only could find other people to talk about certain hobbies with online up until college sounds like a lot of pepole will be more…

We’ve only had this communication capability for the last .01% of human existence. Even 150 years ago, if you wanted to communicate with anyone outside your town, you had to pay a horse based courier what was most likely a very expensive fee. Not to mention the millions of years before that.

Did all these previous generations find less satisfaction in life? Well who knows but I argue not.

We don’t have to structure our lives so that we are dependent on the internet for entertainment.

But also, if you have to pay a small $ fee, okay that seems like a good trade too, if the value is what you are ascribing to it.

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Post by 8note »

RheingoldRiver wrote: post #235
harryf wrote: post #139

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What gives me hope is if you ever take a break from social media you realize how worthless it all is. It really doesn’t hurt to disengage. For similar reasons it’s possible for new networks to show up which disrupt the old, such as TikTok. The point is as individuals we are way less dependent on social media than we imagine.

I disagree. If you find the right communities, you really make close friendships with people - even if you don't know their real names, how old they are, where they work, or where they live. None of that matters, because you share and connect over a common interest. And you could never find so many people IRL with similar interests as you. If this isn't how you're using reddit, discord, etc, and it's easy to disconne…

That's a community that can move quite easily

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Post by addandsubtract »

neoromantique wrote: post #337
PrimeMcFly wrote: post #268

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That's all fine and well. I mod a couple of large subs but I exclusively use desktop so I'm not affected. I just don't think mods should be ending the communities, most of which they didn't start themselves. Let other people who don't share their issues take over.

>large subs >I exclusively use desktop so I'm not affected [Doubt]

Why? I'm just a normal user, but 98% of my redditing was done on old.reddit

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by wackget »

coffeefirst wrote: post #296
concinds wrote: post #74

The dishonesty continues. > if they are no longer interested in moderating that community They're still interested. They're just protesting your policies. > [if] at least one mod [...] wants to keep the community going, we will respect their decisions and remove those who no longer want to moderate from the mod team. This one takes the cake. They're dangling a carrot: hey, any low-ranked mod interested in taking over…

Right. I don't really care how the API thing ends. Lower the price, grandfather in some of the big clients for a longer sunset date so they don't have to issue refunds, work out rev-share or per user licensing agreements... whatever. These are solvable problems. But these antics have me thinking I should find alternatives to the very few subs that actually matter. So if anyone knows a good web community for cooking..…

eGullet Forums, although it sometimes feels like it leans too much towards "high brow" cooking or molecular gastronomy.

Stack Exchange Cooking.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by jasonjayr »

ryanmerket wrote: post #173
jjulius wrote: post #106

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GP already highlighted the dishonesty, it's here: > if they are no longer interested in moderating that community The mods, as GP stated, are interested in moderating that community, they just disagree with Reddit's changes. They wouldn't be taking the path of shuttering their subs in protest if they didn't give a damn. That is absolutely dishonesty on the part of Reddit.

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Do try to remember, that they gave him 30 days to adopt this new pricing structure, which also includes trying to figure out how to reneg on the subscriptions he has already sold.
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