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Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by SkyPuncher »

rychco wrote: post #20

One thing that I was unaware of, that seems even more dire than the api pricing changes, is that Reddit apparently intends to IPO in the near ( This signals to me that the service is guaranteed to steadily worsen until it's unrecognizable & forced into (deserved) irrelevance.

This was why I decided to delete my account last week.

I no longer trust Reddit. It doesn’t matter what leadership wants, once Reddit is in the hands of public shareholders leadership will have no choice put to continue the squeeze on users. One of the easiest ways to do that is start selling data.

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by goles »

unclekev wrote: post #155
yk wrote: post #18

Thing is, I am much more loyal to the mods of my favorite subs, then I'm to reddit. And my guess is, that is the case with a lot of the power users.

9 out of 10 days most Reddit mods are considered the scum of the earth, it's a literal meme at this point how bad a lot of them are. They are the heroes this week because it fits their narrative. Censorship, power-tripping, running subs with a iron fist, etc Nobody knows or cares who they are. As much as they'd like to think they are, the mods are not the community. The community is the people. The people are not the…

When an ump acts like 30,000 people came to the game to watch them and not their team.

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Post by Karellen »

capableweb wrote: post #199

One thing I don't quite understand is how the CEO first claims that only 3% of the user base is using 3rd party apps, and then later claims that "And the opportunity cost of not having those users (3rd part app users) on our platform, on our advertising platform, is really significant" (from https://www.npr.org/2023/06/15/1182457366/reddit-ceo-steve-h... ) Is that 3% of the user base really having such a big impact s…

I suppose it depends how active that 3% of the userbase is.

If those 3% of users are responsible for e.g. 20% of the page views, and therefore potentially 20% of ad placements, maybe they are really having a big impact?

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by Avamander »

BugsJustFindMe wrote: post #281
Avamander wrote: post #244

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but it's an extreme form of selfishness to demand that someone else sacrifice earnings to provide perpetual unfettered platform access to things that were put on the platform of posters' own accord without coercion. In that same sentence you highlight why it's not selfish. Reddit wants content and moderation, they're not paying shit for it. It's only a fair trade for people to keep their tools and clients in exchan…

> Reddit wants content and moderation Reddit benefits from content moderation, but reddit didn't make any mods be mods. Mods did that to themselves entirely on their own. > they're not paying shit for it. This is a nonsequitur. Reddit doesn't need to pay anything for the mods to experience compensation. The compensation that the mods get is having the subreddits be moderated in the way they want. It's possible (and u…

> Mods are already compensated by having exactly what they became mods for in the first place, moderated subreddits.

Basically. And now that Reddit takes that away from I don't know how many, what motivation or incentives does it leave for both current and future ones? Sense of duty (LOL)?

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Post by thatguy0900 »

r2vcap wrote: post #153
minhazm wrote: post #117

Reddit has handled this pretty terribly but I also think people are being unreasonable. This is no different than me creating a third party YouTube client, charging for it and displaying no ads. Why would YouTube allow me to do that? And why should Reddit allow third party apps to do that? Reddit screwed up in the first place allowing third party apps that they have zero control over to build a full frontend replacem…

I also agree. I was using the rif premium version. third-party apps removed Reddit's ads and offered a paid version instead. I'm not saying rif is a bad app. It is uch easier to use than the official app. However, it is self-evident that it would have contributed to the deterioration of monetization on the reddit side. It is not a civilized way to blow up huge communities by inciting people and setting fire to their…

It's not really correct to say they removed reddit ads. Reddit never gave anyone access to put reddits ads in to begin with.

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Post by coffeefirst »

concinds wrote: post #74

The dishonesty continues. > if they are no longer interested in moderating that community They're still interested. They're just protesting your policies. > [if] at least one mod [...] wants to keep the community going, we will respect their decisions and remove those who no longer want to moderate from the mod team. This one takes the cake. They're dangling a carrot: hey, any low-ranked mod interested in taking over…

Right. I don't really care how the API thing ends. Lower the price, grandfather in some of the big clients for a longer sunset date so they don't have to issue refunds, work out rev-share or per user licensing agreements... whatever. These are solvable problems.

But these antics have me thinking I should find alternatives to the very few subs that actually matter. So if anyone knows a good web community for cooking... so far I've learned I'm too old for Discord.

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Post by capableweb »

flutas wrote: post #263
capableweb wrote: post #199

One thing I don't quite understand is how the CEO first claims that only 3% of the user base is using 3rd party apps, and then later claims that "And the opportunity cost of not having those users (3rd part app users) on our platform, on our advertising platform, is really significant" (from https://www.npr.org/2023/06/15/1182457366/reddit-ceo-steve-h... ) Is that 3% of the user base really having such a big impact s…

That 3% probably consists of a majority of the 1% who post content, and the .1% who moderate content. Without either of those, the site becomes stale and overrun by trash content.

He also claimed most mods don't use 3rd party apps:

> Huffman said 97% of Reddit users do not use any third-party apps to browse the site. He said "the vast majority" of moderators also do not rely on third-party apps.

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Post by SkyPuncher »

ulrashida wrote: post #189
unclekev wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

9 out of 10 days most Reddit mods are considered the scum of the earth, it's a literal meme at this point how bad a lot of them are. They are the heroes this week because it fits their narrative. Censorship, power-tripping, running subs with a iron fist, etc Nobody knows or cares who they are. As much as they'd like to think they are, the mods are not the community. The community is the people. The people are not the…

Sounds like you may need to find some different subs to participate in. Majority of experiences with mods in mine have been between very okay and positive.

I’ve literally never had a bad feeling towards any mods. The only ones that seem to have negative sentiment are those running massive subreddits (which come with insane challenges).

Re: Reddit Threatens to Remove Moderators from Subreddits Continuing Blackouts

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Post by 0xParlay »

Reddit clearly doesn't understand the product. When users join a sub it's because they like the content and tacitly approve of the moderation.

All but new users are aware that subs are governed by mods. Installing a corporate-approved mod panel because a community isn't acting in Reddit Inc's financial best interest is to light the whole product on fire.

What's the point of starting a new sub if it'll be repurposed as reddit sees fit? What's the point of joining a sub and contributing if upon gaining popularity - it'll be taken away and controlled by "the adults".

Imagine starting a discord group for your buddies and then corporate decides the group should be controlled by some outsider. At least perform a sham referendum to maintain a facade of authenticity. "Do you want to remove the evil stinky mods with fun cool ones? Vote now!"

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Post by TheAdamist »

The mods are only punishing the users of the subreddit, they arent hurting reddit itself at all.

Ban them and free any closed subreddits.

All the user polls various subs are overwhelming voted to stay open with 99% of the comments pro open.

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