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I'm confused by this whole thing, do the mods not realize how easily they can be replaced? Without any leadership or strategy moving forward this "movement" is doomed. Who decided the winning strategy was to basically quit? What are they hoping happens here, reddit opens up negotiations? LOL, you're handing them the keys to your subreddits DERP. Pretty much par for reddit mods though so why am i expecting some kind o…
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The average user doing ~300 api calls per day would do about 9000 calls per month and at $0.24/1k calls would be $2/user Apollo also does polling of the message box for each user for push notifications ( https://github.com/christianselig/apollo-backend/blob/main/i... ) which currently has a rate of 1/minute/user. This is another 1.4k calls per day and changes the price that would be paid. Current rate: https://github…
OK, so whatever numbers you want to use, whether it’s $2 in direct Reddit api access charges or $5, same order of magnitude, probably neither moves the needle that much relative to the other. But I think there’s a huge difference between that charge being 20 cents and $2 (or 50 cents and $5).
If Reddit is saying "it's $2 for the 300 calls per day" that is claimed for the mobile app usage they're correct looking at what they charge for API calls based on the developer saying that the average user does 345 calls/day from the mobile app.
From the app develop perspective who also has a polling back end and an apple subscription cut and maintaining the same profit as before on top of it all, they're likely looking at closer to $20/month for that same user (noting that previously they were charing $4.99 and it was almost all profit for that user).
FTA: > the number of Reddits that have gone dark expanded from around 7,000 to more than 8,400 Annoyingly, there's no context for these numbers. Is this 10% of all subreddits? 90%? Does it cover half of all users? They're meaningless numbers that "sound big."
I always thought reddit was smarter than this. They were really born out of the ashes of digg and for a long time they remembered that. At this point they're in decline I don't think the bleeding will stop. Lots of young people already had a negative view of reddit and now redditors have a negative view of reddit too. I hope we can make a home in the fediverse I'm tired of giving my data to large corps with no recour…
I'm confused by this whole thing, do the mods not realize how easily they can be replaced? Without any leadership or strategy moving forward this "movement" is doomed. Who decided the winning strategy was to basically quit? What are they hoping happens here, reddit opens up negotiations? LOL, you're handing them the keys to your subreddits DERP. Pretty much par for reddit mods though so why am i expecting some kind o…
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> It's as if the CEO is purposefully being as belligerent as possible to rile people up. The CEO is following the new leadership playbook, which you should recognize by now, as it's used by Musk, crypto leaders, Zuckerberg, and many more inside and outside of tech. * Fundamentally it's just following the social (media) trend: Demonstrate brazen, over-the-top arrogance, disregard for consequences, and no empathy. I'm…
Without getting too political... Musk is just following President Trump's playbook. Everything you said describes the same way he behaves.
I don't really understand why it had to be this way. It's so easy to think of other ways this could have been handled. Even just announcing the same change with 6 months of lead time rather than 1 month would have gone over better. Or boil the frog and gradually introduce API restrictions. It's as if the CEO is purposefully being as belligerent as possible to rile people up.
> It's as if the CEO is purposefully being as belligerent as possible to rile people up. The CEO is following the new leadership playbook, which you should recognize by now, as it's used by Musk, crypto leaders, Zuckerberg, and many more inside and outside of tech. * Fundamentally it's just following the social (media) trend: Demonstrate brazen, over-the-top arrogance, disregard for consequences, and no empathy. I'm…
There's a lot of people who prefer, or at least respect, an openly arrogant or dishonest leader. At least you know where you stand then, and are visible. The alternative, a lot of the time, is a leader who pays lipservice to equality, but has the same underlying disrespect.
The dream is being treated as a capable individual, but if a leader isn't willing to see you like that, it's pick your poison.
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They have a $4/month product ALL ready that removes ads and gives you more features. Making that a requirement to use the API is by FAR the simplest and most profitable option. Its also more profit then they're proposing to get from their API charges
I don't understand the Apollo side of this --- that's literally what he's being offered, by his own math. $3/month/user. Fairs fair. He has enough users to make millions a year: their servers aren't his for free forever. People are tying themselves into knots turning Reddit into either near-bankrupt or evil. Or hyper-focusing on particular elements that are just disputable human interactions, like most (i.e. suggesti…
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>the impact will be rapidly observable in August as moderation becomes extremely difficult Is there a market out there where I can bet all my money against this claim? The idea that this will lead to a spam wave destroying Reddit is wishful thinking on the part of aggrieved moderators who see themselves as forming a Thin Blue Line against a tide of chaos.
I'm not an aggrieved moderator, but I am someone who has moderated in the past and used the third-party tools and bots that allowed a subreddit to remain focused on a specific topic. I don't think you recognize how much random spam and troll submissions are caught by filters and cleaned up automatically in even small subreddits. Having given up moderation ages ago, I have no dog in this fight. I'm sitting on the side…
If there's a detailed argument saying that basic moderation (eg. obvious spam removal and not "I want to ban everyone who's ever said anything nice about Trump") will take say an order of magnitude more human effort without 3rd party tools I'd be curious to see it. If there's a persuasive claim along these lines I'd shift my beliefs, but I haven't seen it so far.