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Post by worrycue »

roody15 wrote: post #96

It seems that the end game of corporate controlled social media is for corporate interests to control what you read or watch. Happened with the feed of Facebook. originally was a true social network where you scrolled through what your family and friends posted. Now it is a algorithm designed to maximize attention and sell influence, Happened with YouTube. Used to be really pro independent user … now the search funct…

YouTube search is officially trash. It doesn’t even support excluding terms using “-“.

I was trying to find video essays on Cyberpunk, the worthless search kept giving videos of the stupid Cyberpunk 2077 video game. I had to use Google search to find what I needed.

Also YouTube search likes recommend me unrelated stuff too nowadays. For heaven sakes, can we have a search that just do its damn job.

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Post by George83728 »

maxsilver wrote: post #293
George83728 wrote: post #249

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> Nazis are very fringe, they don't outnumber anybody else and can't outvote people either Respectfully, Twitter is kind of living proof of the opposite -- clearly they can overwhelm/outvote people (and even out-spend regular folks, if you throw an $8 price tag barrier up), despite being a small number of the total population.

I don't use twitter but I sincerely doubt nazis outnumber regular users on twitter and I don't think you have real data to back up that claim. Remember, ragebait works by finding the most egregious instances of things and misrepresenting them as typical occurrences.

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Post by Clent »

jrm4 wrote: post #275
extr wrote: post #38

I don't really understand why it had to be this way. It's so easy to think of other ways this could have been handled. Even just announcing the same change with 6 months of lead time rather than 1 month would have gone over better. Or boil the frog and gradually introduce API restrictions. It's as if the CEO is purposefully being as belligerent as possible to rile people up.

I don't understand why the users aren't just leaving? Surely the software/infrastructure can't be that hard to replicate, especially on a "subreddit" level? Why don't a few big mods just go this route and tell everyone else?

Many have. Many more will. They aren't going to announce it, that's gauche.

There is a sentiment of, 'Whelp, was fun while it lasted. Remember, digg, haha. See on the next go around.'

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Post by basch »

raincole wrote: post #99
whatsuphotdog wrote: post #40

I love that the CEO calls the users voicing their displeasure "noise". When those users voice opinions on other things, it's called content. When those users voice their opinions against reddit, it's noise. Hoffman continues to display a fundamental misunderstanding of what Reddit is. The very people that give your platform its value are revolting against you, and you think it's noise. What's your product? What do yo…

My personal (cynical) bet is that Huffman actually understands what Reddit is better than us, and Reddit will be just fine after this. To be completely honest, if a two-day blackout is proven to be the most serious "protest" the community can do, I'll buy Reddit stock when it IPO.

Is there any measure of how many accounts were scrubbed by scripts and deleted?

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Post by thr_low_latency »

maxsilver wrote: post #293
George83728 wrote: post #249

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> Nazis are very fringe, they don't outnumber anybody else and can't outvote people either Respectfully, Twitter is kind of living proof of the opposite -- clearly they can overwhelm/outvote people (and even out-spend regular folks, if you throw an $8 price tag barrier up), despite being a small number of the total population.

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Post by strunz »

wolverine876 wrote: post #278
extr wrote: post #38

I don't really understand why it had to be this way. It's so easy to think of other ways this could have been handled. Even just announcing the same change with 6 months of lead time rather than 1 month would have gone over better. Or boil the frog and gradually introduce API restrictions. It's as if the CEO is purposefully being as belligerent as possible to rile people up.

> It's as if the CEO is purposefully being as belligerent as possible to rile people up. The CEO is following the new leadership playbook, which you should recognize by now, as it's used by Musk, crypto leaders, Zuckerberg, and many more inside and outside of tech. * Fundamentally it's just following the social (media) trend: Demonstrate brazen, over-the-top arrogance, disregard for consequences, and no empathy. I'm…

Without getting too political... Musk is just following President Trump's playbook. Everything you said describes the same way he behaves.

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Post by HWR_14 »

monero-xmr wrote: post #6

I’m just annoyed the local community group I primarily use Reddit for is dark. I don’t see why this helps anyone. Reddit is a private company, go someplace else. I think 99% of users don’t care, or don’t care enough to do anything substantial. Just move on.

They are moving on. The mods who built the community are leaving, and inviting you to, as you put it, go someplace else.

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Post by bshipp »

AmericanChopper wrote: post #304
bshipp wrote: post #243

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I've only moderated small subreddits and even I know the chaos that results from not having bot-driven subreddit management tools. You may hate Automoderator when it deletes your carefully crafted post for whatever reason, but I guarantee you will hate Reddit itself when your favorite subs become overrun with illegal and off-topic spam. The race will be between Reddit admins recognizing the degradation of the user ex…

This is really tangential to the core issue of charging for API access, as it’s essentially just an implementation detail. Losing moderation functionality is a valid complaint, but Reddit doesn’t need a free API for that to exist. There’s no reason to think that the required functionality won’t be implemented into the service. Your complaint here is also, rather obviously, massively overblown. The free API never enab…

> the free API never enabled a moderation tool that automatically detected and removed gore or child porn

I have no idea what subreddits are using these days, but I'm familiar with spambot, that compared any submitted image against blacklists. For anyone managing a NSFW subreddit, such a tool is an absolute necessity to avoid getting sent to the penalty box by Reddit admins.

https://github.com/4pr0n/spambot

I don't know what's being used now, but when I was familiar with it, spambot was monitoring dozens of NSFW subreddits that had tens of thousands of subscribers. This is only one of thousands of such customized moderation bots that use the free API.

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Post by waboremo »

Freebytes wrote: post #299
ink_13 wrote: post #205

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If Reddit isn't going to value its communities, it's just going to turn into a clone of the bloated corpse of "I Can Has Cheeseburger", an endless stream of cat pictures and short videos, posted and reposted. High in traffic, maybe, but catering only to the lowest common denominator, stripped of the things that made it valuable to long-time users. But that's probably fine with them. Reddit seems to have taken that th…

Creating an alternative to Reddit would be pretty easy, but the challenge is the critical mass of users necessary for anyone to ever replace it. (We are even using a clone right now.) Another challenge would be scalability, but this is not as difficult as it was in 2005(?) when Reddit came to life. They are playing a dangerous game disrespecting their users.

We're going to see a lot more clones in the coming weeks/months, which arguably also prevents most of them from doing their intended job as a replacement. Eventually, one will form when the dust settles.

It's a slow process, but an inevitable one. Twitter has demonstrated this, where it isn't this instant switch, but a slow burn. We're only now getting Meta's take on such a replacement for example. Same will happen with Reddit now people are aware how fragile it really is. I just don't see direct replacements happening this year.

Anecdotally I do see far more aggressive displacement on Reddit than I did with Twitter however, perhaps due to how impersonal Reddit is where most feel they can abandon it much easier than a Twitter account with many professional colleagues attached.

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Post by Freebytes »

Aeolun wrote: post #88

Isn’t there a centralized alternative to Reddit somewhere? This decentralized stuff just doesn’t seem to work.

There was Voat previously. I think you can actually download the source code and spin up an alternative if you wanted. The issue is getting people to switch.
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