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Re: Reddit Doubles Down

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Post by Terr_ »

extr wrote: post #38

I don't really understand why it had to be this way. It's so easy to think of other ways this could have been handled. Even just announcing the same change with 6 months of lead time rather than 1 month would have gone over better. Or boil the frog and gradually introduce API restrictions. It's as if the CEO is purposefully being as belligerent as possible to rile people up.

> It's so easy to think of other ways this could have been handled.

Well, assuming Reddit executives were telling the truth about their goals/needs, which I don't think they are.

They claim the purpose was some kind of emergency band-aid to stop the service from hemorrhaging cash from evil large-scale data-sucking AI developers without compensation... But in that case, they could have simply introduced it as a fresh terms-of-service restriction, with some payment-tier to come later that permits that use of the data.

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Post by lokar »

CommitSyn wrote: post #51
extr wrote: post #38

I don't really understand why it had to be this way. It's so easy to think of other ways this could have been handled. Even just announcing the same change with 6 months of lead time rather than 1 month would have gone over better. Or boil the frog and gradually introduce API restrictions. It's as if the CEO is purposefully being as belligerent as possible to rile people up.

Or they're broke and reddit is soon to be bankrupt. But even so, if they had just said that, the outcome would be so much different. Because as of now it seems like they're fucking people over for the sake of fucking them over.

Neither the cost of allowing these apps or the revenue the charge would produce could possibly matter.

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Post by fabrice_d »

CSMastermind wrote: post #37
graeme wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google should buy Reddit instead. Not that different from owning Youtube. And they'd ensure their search results remain full of good, text based content. Lot of people have complained that Google search is worse today without Reddit. If Reddit management kills the communities which produce the text posts it could have a real negative impact on Google. Meanwhile Google's text and video ad network could probably moneti…

This is an extraordinarily good idea and I'm surprised I haven't heard it discussed before.

Having more concentration of internet services under Google doesn't sound like a good idea at all. Or maybe rename it GAOLgle?

Re: Reddit Doubles Down

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Post by ktosobcy »

TX81Z wrote: post #33
AtlasBarfed wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reddit is a private company that runs on the donated labor of thousands of people doing moderation and policing. 99% of users rely on that labor. And it isn't a given some other forums will rise to the same level. This dumb trope of "economics will ensure an equivalent product will appear" is a laissez faire fantasy.

I moved from Twitter to BlueSky and am much happier. Mastodon wasn’t for me. When I log into Twitter now it’s just to see how bad it’s gotten and I log out. I’m sure it will be similar for Reddit - no clear “winner” at first, but the start of a gradual and irreversible decline for the incumbent.

Pity it's still closed for now.

To my understanding, it would be distributed and virtually independnet from central provider. It would be nice to have something like that for "communities" (slightly different from microblogging or chat/discord)... lemmy seems nice but it's somewhat akin to mastodon where each server is kinda isolated and while you can now federate, searching for communities across the fediverse is not the best experience yet...

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Post by brogrammernot »

ChildOfChaos wrote: post #73

I am a bit confused about this, do a lot of people access Reddit through a service that uses the API? To me Reddit is a website, people keep referring to it as an app, but I have never used an app for it. It works best in the browser.

From what I’ve read, they’ve been running an A/B test blocking the mobile web surface from working so would not be a leap to suggest they want to drop to be an app only product.

Re: Reddit Doubles Down

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Post by thr_low_latency »

over_bridge wrote: post #11
monero-xmr wrote: post #6

I’m just annoyed the local community group I primarily use Reddit for is dark. I don’t see why this helps anyone. Reddit is a private company, go someplace else. I think 99% of users don’t care, or don’t care enough to do anything substantial. Just move on.

This point has been discussed to death already. Reddit is extremely reliant on a small percentage of users who moderate and post content. Those are the ones being impacted and complaining the loudest. The majority of users just passively absorb the work of the few.

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Re: Reddit Doubles Down

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Post by bshipp »

ta8645 wrote: post #34
wahnfrieden wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t think that’s interesting. I regret reading it and wish you hadn't shared it Reddit will have moderators and will provide them more tools

The theory being that it will revert to more manual, hands on moderation, rather than automated and more sweeping (eg. instantly banning people for simply posting in an unrelated but disfavored sub).

I have only moderated relatively small subreddits with hundreds of users and even that was an exhausting slog that was only made feasible with third party subreddit tools. if you think it's difficult to maintain moderator consistency now, just wait until subreddits are forced to bring on hundreds of moderators to handle the workload.

Reddit admin and users have no idea how much free labour they are benefitting from and how much subreddit quality will decline with this move.

Even things like porn subreddits will instantly be hit. There are bots that evaluate every submission and compare them against illegal content to instantly remove those posts. Without those bots, subreddits will get closed as they lose control over submitted content and bring the ire of admin and public media.

Re: Reddit Doubles Down

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Post by alexgrover »

ChildOfChaos wrote: post #73

I am a bit confused about this, do a lot of people access Reddit through a service that uses the API? To me Reddit is a website, people keep referring to it as an app, but I have never used an app for it. It works best in the browser.

Yes, there’s a large group of users that use 3rd party apps like Apollo
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