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Mark Zuckerberg on Apple’s Vision Pro headset

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Re: Mark Zuckerberg on Apple’s Vision Pro headset

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Post by hyuuu »

gnicholas wrote: post #88
cloudking wrote: post #60

Interesting take, I thought he would be pretty excited a major player is entering the space he's been working on since they acquired Oculus. Apple would have done research to validate this product and market before entering it. Edit: he did acknowledge this a bit on Lex Fridman podcast https://youtu.be/C_fpCVtGR6I

A friend of mine works at Meta and was telling me about how much of the AVP's functionality exists on the recent Meta devices, for a fraction of the cost. My reply: great! If that's true, that'll be a boon for Meta (as customers learn this) and for customers (who will save tons of money by getting Meta devices).

this is true

Re: Mark Zuckerberg on Apple’s Vision Pro headset

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Post by ojbyrne »

stouset wrote: post #95
makeitdouble wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> We've seen this story before and it hasn't ended well for the folks in Mark's position. Is Microsoft today in a fundamentally problematic position ? Apple has the spotlight and a higher evaluation, but I'm not sure Google or Microsoft "haven't ended well". > A personal device like these headsets needs to be delightful. The number of people willing to pay for "delightful" is pretty small though. Even as today, the i…

> Is Microsoft today in a fundamentally problematic position ? I mean… pretty obviously yes? Windows is rotting on the vine, Azure is nowhere near the market share of other players, and while they still have a large installed base of users they’ve done nothing particularly noteworthy in like a decade at this point. If there’s anyone on the path to being the next IBM it’s them.

I think a lot of people spend time on LinkedIn these days. And GitHub.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg on Apple’s Vision Pro headset

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Post by labrador »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #121

> “By contrast, every demo that they showed was a person sitting on a couch by themself,” he said of Apple’s WWDC keynote earlier this week. Odd thing for him to say since he is describing the strange solitariness of all VR.

> strange solitariness of all VR

The whole pitch of the Metaverse seemed to be "We'll all live in a virtual world and have great fun meeting and interacting with each other."

Re: Mark Zuckerberg on Apple’s Vision Pro headset

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Post by Laremere »

Foxhuls wrote: post #123
veidr wrote: post #101

I use the Quest Pro right now, because my interest in spatial computing (I like Apple's new term so trying to use it, haha) is greater than my misgivings about Meta (even though those are significant). I will buy the Apple thing, too. There are a lot of interesting differences between them (obviously, the biggest one being the price, and deriving from that) but the one I find interesting is Apple's decision not to ha…

I would strongly recommend looking at the results people are achieving with Apple’s game porting toolkit just days after it was released. With the hardware that the vision pro is supposed to have, I seriously think it will be the best gaming headset on the market if the final product ends up living up to what was announced.

I haven't seen anything about controllers that work with the Vision Pro. Lacking those is a nonstarter for a lot of VR gaming.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg on Apple’s Vision Pro headset

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Post by Invictus0 »

pavlov wrote: post #125
browningstreet wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple filed 5000 patents. Meta can’t even figure out where the field is now.

This is exactly what Jobs claimed about the iPhone in 2007 and it didn’t stop Android from absorbing every relevant innovation.

Jobs was exactly right to say that iPhone was 5 years ahead of the competition. The competition at that time wasn't Android, it was blackberry.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg on Apple’s Vision Pro headset

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Post by truncate »

boloust wrote: post #129
veidr wrote: post #101

I use the Quest Pro right now, because my interest in spatial computing (I like Apple's new term so trying to use it, haha) is greater than my misgivings about Meta (even though those are significant). I will buy the Apple thing, too. There are a lot of interesting differences between them (obviously, the biggest one being the price, and deriving from that) but the one I find interesting is Apple's decision not to ha…

By all accounts, the Vision Pro eye tracking is extremely good, so for pointing inputs it would probably beat hardware controllers on speed and precision metrics, as well as feeling more direct and natural.

I was thinking if eye tracking can cause more eye strain over long time, cause you'd have to focus your eyes more on something, than say casually moving pointer with a mouse or controller.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg on Apple’s Vision Pro headset

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Post by hedora »

gnicholas wrote: post #88
cloudking wrote: post #60

Interesting take, I thought he would be pretty excited a major player is entering the space he's been working on since they acquired Oculus. Apple would have done research to validate this product and market before entering it. Edit: he did acknowledge this a bit on Lex Fridman podcast https://youtu.be/C_fpCVtGR6I

A friend of mine works at Meta and was telling me about how much of the AVP's functionality exists on the recent Meta devices, for a fraction of the cost. My reply: great! If that's true, that'll be a boon for Meta (as customers learn this) and for customers (who will save tons of money by getting Meta devices).

I think there is a large market of people that will never trust meta, but ignoring that, they have AR goggles now?

If not, their comments about overlapping features sound like the “but nokia candy bar phones already have a WEP browser!” objections from back in the iPhone 1 days.

(I’m personally not all that impressed by the apple vision announcement, but I also wasn’t impressed by the iPhone announcement, and for similar reasons. Hopefully someone will do significantly better than Apple this time.)

Re: Mark Zuckerberg on Apple’s Vision Pro headset

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Post by unobatbayar »

veidr wrote: post #101

I use the Quest Pro right now, because my interest in spatial computing (I like Apple's new term so trying to use it, haha) is greater than my misgivings about Meta (even though those are significant). I will buy the Apple thing, too. There are a lot of interesting differences between them (obviously, the biggest one being the price, and deriving from that) but the one I find interesting is Apple's decision not to ha…

Meta Quest 3 really looks like it's made by Xiaomi, matches their entire theme and price range.

What made you buy it?

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