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Re: India ruling party's IT cell used AI to show smile on arrested protesters' faces

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thisisit wrote: post #197

I am amazed that the title is allowed to stand despite the original title and the content. The origin of the image is unclear. Sure, one can speculate that "India ruling party's IT cell" is behind the morphed image. This is what this comment section is for. But without hard proof the title is as much of an propaganda as are the morphed image. Are we going to tag everything a Democrat does as "US ruling party's" doing…

HN has an inherent bias against India and Indians. Just open any of the H1B related posts and you will see how open minded the liberal tech worker of USA is about India and Indians. Of course, they are all for immigration just the H1B brings up debate about 'Quality of Work. Hypocrites.

I think the American Narrow Minded view of the World is due to they growing up in a 2 party system that only looks at things as Black and White ( Not the race ), as Right and Wrong ( that's better ).

They are basically fed what they are supposed to think by CNNs, NYTs, Guardians etc etc

Like Uncle Soros they believe they understand India better than Indians. Uncle Soros wants to bring 'Democracy' to World's largest Democracy, because 1 Billion Indians don't know what they should vote for - They need a White Man to tell them that. .

In their own Country they created False Accusations against their President - Published in all 'respected' mainstream Newspapers.

United States of Gaslighting is where they are at.

Let's see if @dang is open minded enough to do something about the title after 400 upvotes are already made.

Re: India ruling party's IT cell used AI to show smile on arrested protesters' faces

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Post by testHNac »

Why is the Title Modified to give a Political angle ?

@dang

Are you allowed to write that Democrat Party threatened to Blow up Target ?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2023/05/26/target-store...

I am sure that will be downvoted into oblivion.

But that threat does come from a Democrat Party voter right ?

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HN has an inherent bias against India and Indians. Just open any of the H1B related posts and you will see how open minded the liberal tech worker of USA is about India and Indians. Of course, they are all for immigration just the H1B brings up debate about 'Quality of Work'. Hypocrites.

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I think the American Narrow Minded view of the World is due to they growing up in a 2 party system that only looks at things as Black and White ( Not the race ), as Right and Wrong ( that's better ).

They are basically fed what they are supposed to think by CNNs, NYTs, Guardians etc etc

Like Uncle Soros they believe they understand India better than Indians. Uncle Soros wants to bring 'Democracy' to World's largest Democracy, because 1 Billion Indians don't know what they should vote for - They need a White Man to tell them that. .

In their own Country they created False Accusations against their President - Published in all 'respected' mainstream Newspapers.

United States of Gaslighting is where they are at.

Let's see if @dang is open minded enough to do something about the title after 400 upvotes are already made.

Re: India ruling party's IT cell used AI to show smile on arrested protesters' faces

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Post by remexre »

bogwog wrote: post #448
carlitossway wrote: post #307

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, they cannot. LLMs are LANGUAGE models, not KNOWLDEGE models. They do not "know" what algorithms mean any more than they know what everything else they "talk about" mean. What they are more than capable of is to produce really convincing hype, which claims that LLMs can do anything and everything.

Some skepticism is healthy, but I think you have a misconception about what an LLM is. Neural networks use machine learning to automagically find connections between data. Handwriting recognition is an example of this, as it's trivial to build a model that can recognize the differences between characters/digits, whereas writing an algorithm to do that effectively would be very difficult. You can train a model on samp…

I think you're accidentally making a jump in meta-levels:

The equivalent of an existing handwriting recognizer for e.g. RSA wouldn't be a model that tells you how to crack RSA, it'd be a model that _does_ crack it (maybe by returning a probability distribution over the plaintext that's better than uniform). That feels pretty unlikely to me personally, but maybe that's doable, who knows.

For the standard of "the LLM tells us how to crack RSA," it feels like the equivalent for handwriting recognition would be the LLM outputting a description of a novel algorithm for handwriting recognition (and probably one that isn't just an existing one with some hyperparameters tweaked).

My understanding of the weaknesses of current LLMs is that they're actually pretty bad at that, since they tend to regurgitating existing content when they're able to.

Re: India ruling party's IT cell used AI to show smile on arrested protesters' faces

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Post by testHNac »

archagon wrote: post #201
jeswin wrote: post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My point was that submitters who only submit political articles (in line with their biases) are detrimental to the site. Such articles attract more politically charged engagement, and over time draw in people who care more about politics than tech. The article btw is of questionable newsworthiness; and is a link to a propoganda blog. It's not really an accredited news organization.

That may be true, but most of OP’s posts did not get any traction at all. This one did because it’s relevant to the community.

Community prefers to be misled on Topics as long as it goes along with their inherent biases.

Re: India ruling party's IT cell used AI to show smile on arrested protesters' faces

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Post by testHNac »

jeswin wrote: post #183

This has devolved into a political discussion unfit for HN. The OP's submission history[1] is almost entirely political, and promoting a specific viewpoint. While I believe it's ok to discuss politics on HN, my view is that accounts that exist solely for political propaganda should be discouraged. 1: https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=throwaway384629

HN has a tendency to see India from a certain Viewpoint and promote such articles.

This is among many that I have seen gain traction that are politicized.

I believe the moderator sees no issues when the articles pertain to India.

Re: India ruling party's IT cell used AI to show smile on arrested protesters' faces

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Post by testHNac »

dagmx wrote: post #22

As an NRI, I continue to be disappointed by the country I called home for most of my life. Between the politics and the pollution in Delhi, I fear I can never really return home. The last time I was home, I was struggling every day to breathe because Delhi has crazy air in the winter. While high school friends were telling me about how they don’t believe in equal rights, justifying any means to achieving a Hindu coun…

Regarding human rights abuses if you live in the USA I wonder what makes it better.

People are crying all over every conceivable media about how racial, sexual, financial discrimination is taking place.

Millionaire celebrities are 'Victims' of a variety of abuse - Racial, Sexual etc etc

People getting randomly shot in a shootout every other day.

Stores can't stay open due to getting robbed as it's 'legally' allowed.

Kids can't pay loans for college, people are barely living thanks to shtty minimum wage.

Seems like it's common for people to sh*t on the roads in San Francisco.

Kids education becoming sub standard thanks to politicians.

Most of the West seems to be heading in the same direction.

Since you see are obviously comfortable in that environment. Please don't come back.

You can remain heartbroken in the West.

Re: India ruling party's IT cell used AI to show smile on arrested protesters' faces

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Post by testHNac »

throwaway384629 wrote: post #70
ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #37

What's with India and the shift towards the right? I thought it had too many religions and different cultures to pull this off.

BJP in India does not fight elections based on any development agendas like education/healthcare or social security. They pretends to the majority Hindu public that "Hindus are in danger from Muslims" and only BJP can protect them. They also project themselves as true nationalists and anyone having anti-government views is declared a "Pakistani" or anti-national. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/4/7/spike-in-anti-…

India has developed under the current Govt.

When the entire Left bootlickers like Al Jazeera, CNN, NYT were criticizing the Indian Govt in 2020 onwards - They laid the foundation for growth.

When your America is going broke and again increasing it's Debt Ceiling to pay for the survival of the populace, India is the fastest growing Economy in the world.

A Billion Indians can decide who to vote for. Don't need some entitles White guys and their brown lackeys in BBC, Al Jazeera to come and tell us how to lead their lives.

If your White Intellectuals had any capability your entire Western Economies wouldn't be in doldrums.

The wisest thing Western Economists are capable of is increasing the Debt Ceiling repeatedly and printing money.

Then bribe the dumb populace with welfare to vote for the same govt again.

Re: India ruling party's IT cell used AI to show smile on arrested protesters' faces

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Post by testHNac »

throwaway384629 wrote: post #70
ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #37

What's with India and the shift towards the right? I thought it had too many religions and different cultures to pull this off.

BJP in India does not fight elections based on any development agendas like education/healthcare or social security. They pretends to the majority Hindu public that "Hindus are in danger from Muslims" and only BJP can protect them. They also project themselves as true nationalists and anyone having anti-government views is declared a "Pakistani" or anti-national. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/4/7/spike-in-anti-…

BTW Democrat Party does fear mongering among Blacks and LGBT minorities and keeps them in perpetual fear and anxiety.

They use this strategy to stay in power. And that's supposed to be approved by the Very Ethical Western Media and White Intellectuals.

What hypocrites you lot are.

Next year the Trump fear mongering will start again.

And the Liberal Sheep on HN will get their panties in a bunch crying about how unsafe they are while earning a few 100k $ per year.

Re: India ruling party's IT cell used AI to show smile on arrested protesters' faces

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Post by testHNac »

throwaway384629 wrote: post #300
Superblazer wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As terrible as the government is, i want the foreigners here to understand that op also has his own agenda, this above reply shows their intentions. All indian political parties are low quality trash in their own ways.

I am playing a role that any well functioning journalist should play. Question the government and point out any wrong doings. Isn't is a core aspect of democracy? Do you see anything wrong in that? >> All indian political parties are low quality trash in their own ways. Agree. But the one having power currently is the focus. Be it any party.

You are not a journalist, you are a hack. You are not presenting a balanced opinion.

You are biased and presenting a distorted view which you know is an easy sell here. From your posts you seem like a Typical Indian Redditor / Twitter activist.

Who believes they have great potential in life, have nothing to show for it.

So come here to sh!t on your country to get validation of Western people. Few HN karma points to make yourself feel like you have some value in this world.

The typical Slave Mentality liberal that exists in India and Pakistan. A sad gift of the colonialism. You should work for Al jazeera, BBC, NYT etc They like to keep pets like you to parrot their talking points.

Re: India ruling party's IT cell used AI to show smile on arrested protesters' faces

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Post by testHNac »

throwaway384629 wrote: post #320
throwaway2305ax wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok, this is not entirely true. - India is the fastest growing large economy in the world - inflation is under control - The infrastructure spend is the largest ever. There's construction everywhere. - life expectancy is significantly up Of course there are issues, but it's a mixed bag. Not all religion.

>> India is the fastest growing large economy in the world Source please? >> inflation is under control Cooking Gas cylinder price: [1] June 2017: 552.50 May 2023: 1103.00 Petrol price (Even when India is importing dirt cheap crude oil from Russia): [2] Dec 2015: 60.00/litre May 2023: 100.00/litre >> - The infrastructure spend is the largest ever. There's construction everywhere. If certain companies and politically…

>> India is the fastest growing large economy in the world >Source please?

For a journalist you seem to be incapable of finding basic information.

Also, you are too misinformed to be a journalist. Are you sure you are not some frustrated kid grounded by his parents ?

https://www.hindustantimes.com/business/at-6-1-india-to-be-f...

https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2023/04/04/i...

>>If certain companies and politically linked builders are building then that does not mean country is progressing.

You nincompoop they are generating employment, building infrastructure and it is for growth of the country.

If you have money create a business and give jobs instead of sh!tt!ng on HN with your AAM AADMI Party wh0ring.

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