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If politics emergent from SV technology can’t be discussed on HN, then I’d call this community an abject failure.
My point was that submitters who only submit political articles (in line with their biases) are detrimental to the site. Such articles attract more politically charged engagement, and over time draw in people who care more about politics than tech. The article btw is of questionable newsworthiness; and is a link to a propoganda blog. It's not really an accredited news organization.
India ruling party's IT cell used AI to show smile on arrested protesters' faces
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I take an authentic image with a camera, crop out the part of it that it's not aligned with my goals, put a reference to the authentic image. How do you get the authentic image to compare it with my edit? And how do you solve the problem of a powerful entity telling you that the cropped image is authentic, or there will be consequences? People know what's going on, they bend for fear of breaking. No technology is cha…
You have to provide authentic image with your image for it to validate, just as you have to supply any intermediate certificates in TLS. If you want to crop to hide information you have to do this while taking the photo in the camera app. Powerful entity can tell you to install their root certificate just like it happens in China. This is a different problem.
Advertisers are going to want to postprocess images and have the green check.
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I absolutely hate the way fellow Indians will just try and deflect negative stories about India as western propaganda. You do a disservice to your country by following that tired playbook. Did you ever stop to consider that I am actually well informed and genuinely disappointed with my country. Criticism of the country and party doesn’t mean I’m simply misinformed. I was critical of things when I lived there, I consu…
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#204This has devolved into a political discussion unfit for HN. The OP's submission history[1] is almost entirely political, and promoting a specific viewpoint. While I believe it's ok to discuss politics on HN, my view is that accounts that exist solely for political propaganda should be discouraged. 1: https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=throwaway384629
If politics emergent from SV technology can’t be discussed on HN, then I’d call this community an abject failure.
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> Before that media was written text and everyone knows anyone can make up anything they want in that domain. From what I gather, Julius Caesar's Commentarii de Bello Gallico was pretty much fanfiction (had somebody write?) about himself. This problem may be older than I thought.
Anyone doing history knows that all the sources are biased. You have to corroborate evidence and adjust for knowing the context in which the work was produced to determine how reliable it is.
Re: India ruling party's IT cell used AI to show smile on arrested protesters' faces
#206This has devolved into a political discussion unfit for HN. The OP's submission history[1] is almost entirely political, and promoting a specific viewpoint. While I believe it's ok to discuss politics on HN, my view is that accounts that exist solely for political propaganda should be discouraged. 1: https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=throwaway384629
Even if political, I personally expect better on HN.
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The sheer amount of hubris in your post is astounding. So any opinion other than your own is propaganda fed by the west, but the only true reality is the one you agree with that paints India in a flattering light. Using “the world happiness index” as some kind of gotcha propaganda is hilarious, when we’re discussing actual issues like arresting protestors. Just ridiculous. I won’t be replying again to you because I d…
Good to know you consider the World Happiness Index 2023 as hubris. We can finally agree on something.
> I won’t be replying again to you because I don’t think you are capable of accepting that other people disagree with your world view
Funny how you believe "I don’t think you are capable of accepting that other people disagree with your world view" and in the text rejected my valid argument which you had absolutely zero counter for.
Either accept that the World Happiness Index is a fabrication of the West or rebut with facts as to why India ranks below Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Myanmar. You got stumped with just this easiest piece of fact that you couldn't even counter. Tells me everything I need to know.
> when we’re discussing actual issues like arresting protestors
Cry me a river. The West is so pristine it doesn't arrest protesters at all. Nor do Government agencies kill people randomly. Nor does it indulge in assassinations both within its own soil or in countries that it has no jurisdiction over. Nor does the West bomb other nations to bits. Nor does it arrest farmers and confiscate their properties and bank accounts. The West is epitome of truth, fairness and justice. While puny Indians back home, which you incidentally rejected because of the deep seated hatred, are the horrible ones who do not have capacity to discern truth from fiction and do not understand how a Democracy functions.
Give me a break!
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#208No, I don't think it likely. It's just we live in a world where this kind of stuff is just so easy to do now.
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That is what a lot of us think the real threat of "AI" is: not that it will autonomously produce bad outcomes for humanity, but because it's a tool that's indifferent to truth or falsehood it allows any kind of truth or reality based politics to be totally flooded out of the public sphere. Everyone ends up fighting in the hall of mirrors.
Yeah. The postmodernists (as I understand them) have been talking about "post truth" and "claims of truth are just assertions of power". And I've always thought that their position was insane. Now they look more like prophets. That world is increasingly the world we live in. The question becomes, how can we stay sane in that world? How can we find enough actual truth (truth that is actually true , true in the old sen…
Not to me. They just look like another group claiming grand and sweeping theories of truth.
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The sheer amount of hubris in your post is astounding. So any opinion other than your own is propaganda fed by the west, but the only true reality is the one you agree with that paints India in a flattering light. Using “the world happiness index” as some kind of gotcha propaganda is hilarious, when we’re discussing actual issues like arresting protestors. Just ridiculous. I won’t be replying again to you because I d…