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Post by screye »

dgellow wrote: post #266
codegeek wrote: post #133

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For non Indians, NRI = Non Resident Indian i.e. an Indian who lives outside India. In case someone wondered. It is easy to shit on the party in office which is BJP right now but show me a country that can have hundreds of languages, all religions and still survive for centuries as one country. Europe couldn't do it. They broke into EU (for better or worse). There are flaws but India is a complex country of various cu…

> It is easy to shit on the party in office which is BJP right now but show me a country that can have hundreds of languages, all religions and still survive for centuries as one country. Europe couldn't do it. They broke into EU (for better or worse). I have no idea what you’re referring to here. Europe has never been one country, and will likely never be. Having smaller countries isn’t something bad, nobody would c…

The Balkans, Africa & the sub-continent are proven examples of the kind of blood that's shed during partition, secession and civil wars.

If you're a proponent of the balkanization of India, then you're by default a proponent of of the biggest as-of-yet-unrealized genocide of the 21st century.

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

lolinder wrote: post #138
juujian wrote: post #6

That is getting real freaking dystopian. Sure, we would have been able to do this before, and the Soviet Union did a ton of photo editing. But doing this particular edit must have been so easy. No cost at all, no mental barrier. You would almost think 'why bother'. And before anyone says 'yeah, but the truth came out'. Well, we saw it, but how many of the particular audience of whatever that outlet was will never see…

This phase won't last long in the grand scheme of things. We've had about 150 years in which people have been conditioned to trust anything that they see in a photograph, but it's always been possible to fake it and for the last 30 years it's been getting dramatically easier. AI just brings us full circle back to the era of woodcuts—just because you see a photorealistic image or hear an audio recording does not mean…

> We've had about 150 years in which people have been conditioned to trust anything that they see in a photograph

This is also about as long as we’ve had popular democracy. (Something like a fifth of Indians are functionally illiterate [1][2].)

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literacy_in_India

[2] https://www.researchgate.net/publication/363173220_LITERACY_....

Re: India ruling party's IT cell used AI to show smile on arrested protesters' faces

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

shri_krishna wrote: post #185
dagmx wrote: post #173

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I absolutely hate the way fellow Indians will just try and deflect negative stories about India as western propaganda. You do a disservice to your country by following that tired playbook. Did you ever stop to consider that I am actually well informed and genuinely disappointed with my country. Criticism of the country and party doesn’t mean I’m simply misinformed. I was critical of things when I lived there, I consu…

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> rabid amount of hate will get you nowhere in life and will always keep you in a negative mood and disappointed

Wat.

Honestly, this attitude—equating moderate criticism with “rabid hate”— causes me to pause every time I get excited about India. There are democratic trade-offs in development. India has made them decently historically, and well recently. But the way you tank that balance is with blind jingoism.

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Post by deno »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #184
deno wrote: post #104

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> You suggest giving up. Not at all. I'm not sure what I said that makes you think that. What I say, though, is that we don't know (either individually or as a society) how to operate in this new environment. It's making it hard to stay sane as an individual, and to stay functioning as a society.

I have read your comment as we just have to accept this new environment and just ‘cope’ with it, whereas my feeling is we don’t have to accept it at all. I don’t want to cope with AI and question if what I see everyday is in fact real. Instead, anything produced by AI should have an asterisk next to it. But this is impossible to enforce, so verifying what’s real by default is the next best thing.

Re: India ruling party's IT cell used AI to show smile on arrested protesters' faces

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Post by neel8986 »

To give more context to outsiders these are olympic medal winning athletes protesting against a serial molester who happens to be part of ruling government. To discredit these athletes ruling government's "IT Cell" is using AI to show they are not sincere enough even after police brutally stopped their protest. No media entity reported on this gross in justice as all of them have already sold their soul.

Every time I think Modi's RW government can't go any lower they prove me wrong. World should be worried that soon to be third largest economy is going to ruled by a political force who are inspired by Nazi. These are some of the quotes from Golwalkar who was the brain behind the current militia Golwalkar https://twitter.com/jaskaransandhu_/status/10569508194997534...

Re: India ruling party's IT cell used AI to show smile on arrested protesters' faces

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #37

What's with India and the shift towards the right? I thought it had too many religions and different cultures to pull this off.

> What's with India and the shift towards the right?

Successful republics appear to waver between stable liberalism and dynamic authoritarianism. We were relatively authoritarian in the Pinkerton and New Deal eras. Modi is delivering on a proven enthnonationalism liberal-economic playbook. It’s hard to argue against fattening pocketbooks and rising living standards.

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

Utkarsh_Mood wrote: post #243
eunos wrote: post #143

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these days lots of Indian twitter accounts that shown on my feed are itching for Hindutva. P.S Not an Indian so Idk how they appeared on my feed.

Here's the definition of Hindutva according to the Supreme Court, if anyone's curious “Hindutva is understood as a way of life of state of mind and is not to be equated with or understood as religious Hindu fundamentalism…it is a fallacy and error of law to proceed on the assumption…that the use of words Hindutva or Hinduism per se depicts an attitude hostile to all persons practicing any religion other than the Hind…

> the definition of Hindutva according to the Supreme Court

Legal definitions aren’t relevant to Twitter accounts. What matters is what’s animating the author.

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Post by webartisan »

shri_krishna wrote: post #207
dagmx wrote: post #193

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The sheer amount of hubris in your post is astounding. So any opinion other than your own is propaganda fed by the west, but the only true reality is the one you agree with that paints India in a flattering light. Using “the world happiness index” as some kind of gotcha propaganda is hilarious, when we’re discussing actual issues like arresting protestors. Just ridiculous. I won’t be replying again to you because I d…

> The sheer amount of hubris in your post is astounding. Good to know you consider the World Happiness Index 2023 as hubris. We can finally agree on something. > I won’t be replying again to you because I don’t think you are capable of accepting that other people disagree with your world view Funny how you believe "I don’t think you are capable of accepting that other people disagree with your world view" and in the…

Mate, you do realise that Whataboutery is simply another way to have a faux conversation with yourself?

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Post by throwaway384629 »

Superblazer wrote: post #154
throwaway384629 wrote: post #70

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BJP in India does not fight elections based on any development agendas like education/healthcare or social security. They pretends to the majority Hindu public that "Hindus are in danger from Muslims" and only BJP can protect them. They also project themselves as true nationalists and anyone having anti-government views is declared a "Pakistani" or anti-national. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/4/7/spike-in-anti-…

As terrible as the government is, i want the foreigners here to understand that op also has his own agenda, this above reply shows their intentions. All indian political parties are low quality trash in their own ways.

I am playing a role that any well functioning journalist should play. Question the government and point out any wrong doings. Isn't is a core aspect of democracy? Do you see anything wrong in that?

>> All indian political parties are low quality trash in their own ways. Agree. But the one having power currently is the focus. Be it any party.

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