Isn't there a housing shortage? Rezone these buildings for apartments on the upper floors. Edit: Even if it costs a lot to convert (that is where tax incentives would usually help if done correctly). Having them sit empty costs more eventually.
Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. We mapped every vacancy
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Re: Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. We mapped every vacancy
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I share one thought about this, which is I don't want my tax dollars supporting red state policies, in essence, and I wonder if OP feels the same way
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[0]https://www.thirdway.org/report/the-two-decade-red-state-mur...
[1]https://www.newsweek.com/these-republican-cities-have-higher...
Re: Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. We mapped every vacancy
#73I live in SF and spend a fair amount of time thinking about its poor 5-year economic outlook. It's not great, but I am curious how it compares to other metros? If I were to move from SF, wanted to live in a metro area, and was uncomfortable living in a very red state - where should I consider? Where is thriving? I have a good amount of friends in Portland, but Portland is adjacent SF in terms of poor economic recover…
Miami is booming but I do fear the Californian migrants there will just turn it into another San Francisco in due time.
Re: Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. We mapped every vacancy
#74I live in SF and spend a fair amount of time thinking about its poor 5-year economic outlook. It's not great, but I am curious how it compares to other metros? If I were to move from SF, wanted to live in a metro area, and was uncomfortable living in a very red state - where should I consider? Where is thriving? I have a good amount of friends in Portland, but Portland is adjacent SF in terms of poor economic recover…
Living in big cities within "red" states is not like living in the state itself outside the city, other than you are all affected by the same state laws (unless the latter is the main concern). Atlanta GA, Austin TX, etc. are all "blue in a sea of red" as they say. Lived in the former myself for many years. Yes you're affected by state laws, but most of the folks in large cities are going to be less like the stereoty…
-enacting paid sick leave
-enacting mandatory heat and water breaks for manual labor jobs
-modifying their police budgets
-restricting fracking within city limits
-restricting greenhouse gas-intense products
Among other things.[0]https://www.ksat.com/news/texas/2023/04/18/texas-house-appro...
Re: Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. We mapped every vacancy
#75I live in SF and spend a fair amount of time thinking about its poor 5-year economic outlook. It's not great, but I am curious how it compares to other metros? If I were to move from SF, wanted to live in a metro area, and was uncomfortable living in a very red state - where should I consider? Where is thriving? I have a good amount of friends in Portland, but Portland is adjacent SF in terms of poor economic recover…
San Diego perhaps?
But you're right, at this point, I'd still rather be in SD than SF.
Re: Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. We mapped every vacancy
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Unless you are the owner/lessor of commercial real estate, why does this matter? NYC is happening these days, even if not everyone is going back to the office every day. They're still here in their homes (which are renting out for record high rates) and going about their daily lives in the city, which is absolutely packed.
But downtown SF has always been like a scene out of "Night of the Comet" compared to NY.
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Funny you say that, because not only do 'red' states have higher crime rates than 'blue' states[0], but 'red' cities within those red states, like Jacksonville or Oklahoma City, also have higher crime rates.[1] [0] https://www.thirdway.org/report/the-two-decade-red-state-mur... [1] https://www.newsweek.com/these-republican-cities-have-higher...
Re: Downtown SF has 18.4M square feet of empty office space. We mapped every vacancy
#78I live in SF and spend a fair amount of time thinking about its poor 5-year economic outlook. It's not great, but I am curious how it compares to other metros? If I were to move from SF, wanted to live in a metro area, and was uncomfortable living in a very red state - where should I consider? Where is thriving? I have a good amount of friends in Portland, but Portland is adjacent SF in terms of poor economic recover…
That said, if it really matters that much to you, you'll find plenty of swing states with mid-sized cities in the Midwest. Upsides are low cost of living, 20 minutes from the center of the city to cornfields. Downsides are you can't go too far north if you don't like cold winters.
No area is thriving right now thanks to the recession, but it sounds like you are aiming for remote work anyway, so why does that matter? If I were in your shoes, I would pick a place that has the geography, climate, and cost of living I am looking for and not worry so much about the politics and economic prospects of the area.
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Exactly; the tech companies in SF didn't have the backbone to require RTO like the finance firms in NYC did. The cities' respective recoveries show that the finance firms made the right call.
lol people would just move jobs to keep working remote. That's the beauty of working in tech. There's a lot of companies to move over to. Finance is a lot more restricted.