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Weird anecdote, in my circle, everyone hates vegan “meat” yet everybody is also reducing meat consumption.
>> The Good Food Institute Europe (GFI Europe) reports that sales of plant-based foods across 13 European nations amounted to €5.7 billion in 2022. The good food institude is the lobbying arm of the lab grown protein companies. >> ...a Y Combinator funded non-profit that promotes plant- and cultivated meat alternatives to conventional animal meat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Friedrich Also look at stocks at th…
Good points until you showed obvious bias with the "fake food" comment.
The last time we tried this expriment with novel new foods 10% of USA got diabetes.
Do tell me how your children will end up in 20 years of this kind of food.
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It's not cheaper here. The moment it is I'll switch to oat milk. I think it tastes better.
Make your own. It's easy and cheaper than dairy. Takes minutes. Not drank dairy in five years, never miss it. Guests never tell that they been given oat milk and usually convert to drinking and/or making their own oat milk immediately following the experience.
And everyone clapped!
Come off it.
I love oat milk (and think almond milk suuuuuucks). I haven’t had dairy milk in nearly 8 years at home.
But it doesn’t taste the same, doesn’t have the same mouthfeel, and can’t be cooked with in the same way.
They’re literally entirely unique things. Pretending otherwise is just as stupid as religion.
> vegan meat products saw a 21 percent increase in unit sales from 2020 to 2022 > During the same period, animal-based meat and milk sales dropped by eight and nine percent, respectively There are likely additional factors at play in the animal based drop UK ONS shows whole milk at low of 43p/l in 2020 increasing to 70p/l in Mar 23 and minced beef from 609p/kg to 812p/kg in 23 -- but those numbers likely do not refle…
The headline seems to be mixing two trends in food randomly. The drop in meat & milk is likely independent of vegan trends - the $ figures are different orders of magnitude. This isn't substitution at all, so there is no reason to think they are interacting. Europe is probably being hit by some sort of hardship right now meaning people can't eat as well as usual. The UK seems to be being hit by an energy crisis for e…
This implies that meat/dairy have neither the top of the market nor the bottom. If more and more people are willing to pay that premium then I'm not sure what would come back and why once the costs of processed vegan food no longer includes early R&D and risk premiums.
Probably going to be short lasted, as the nutritional deficiencies caused by those products start to produce symptoms. Then plant based diets will become stigmatised. The trend in plant foods to label them with names for animal products is very misleading when the nutritional profiles have absolutely nothing in common. Oat “milk” is basically flavoured water; soy “milk” has a little bit of nutrients in it, but it’s n…
> Probably going to be short lasted, as the nutritional deficiencies caused by those products start to produce symptoms. >... > I know all this because I’ve been vegan for 5+ years and i had to study a lot to >... > The processed products on the market are not good for you. You appear to have a bias and are proclaiming that everyone will soon align with your bias. I've been vegan for over 13 years and eat a ton of pr…
Nutritionists everywhere point out the fact that diets which exclude whole food groups don't guarantee an adequate supply of some key nutrients, and in some cases require taking supplements to avoid suffering from health issues.
And you refer to that fact as "bias", to try to dismiss it?
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Milk was heavily subsidized and the prices were pushed to a point where all but the largest scale producers were making losses (~30 cents per liter) where I live whereas the price of plant based milk used to have a huge novely / vegan markup that wasn't based in production cost. The cost of plant based milk is not exactly much less than dairy now, but it is actually cheaper if you go by discount brand prices. That so…
Which animal harm do you mean by having cows for milk? Its easy to buy bio milk which comes from free grazing cows, the cost of it is almost the same as basic milk where I live. I can tell you from my daily personal experience those are some of the happiest non-wild animals you can meet in person. I mean if we move away from it, yes technically there will be 0 harm possible because we will have to kill all the diary…
Do you also say "peanut butter ain't no butter"?
"Milk" has meant "fatty white liquid" since forever. The oldest surviving cookbook in the English language references "almond milk."
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Make your own. It's easy and cheaper than dairy. Takes minutes. Not drank dairy in five years, never miss it. Guests never tell that they been given oat milk and usually convert to drinking and/or making their own oat milk immediately following the experience.
> Guests never tell that they been given oat milk And everyone clapped! Come off it. I love oat milk (and think almond milk suuuuuucks). I haven’t had dairy milk in nearly 8 years at home. But it doesn’t taste the same, doesn’t have the same mouthfeel, and can’t be cooked with in the same way. They’re literally entirely unique things. Pretending otherwise is just as stupid as religion.
I cook with homemade just fine in pasta dishes.
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1. Cows, like humans, only produce milk after giving birth 2. These cows, in order to get pregnant in the first place, are artificially inseminated (and it isn't a very nice process) 3. What do you think happens to the offspring if it's male and thus uneconomical to keep? The fact that these statements (which are incredibly obvious if you have an eighth grade education or higher) have to be spelled out is a testament…
The fact you’re getting downvoted so much also illustrates how much our species is willing to hide our head in the sand and buy the milk lobbies’ lies.