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Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by TylerE »

tastysandwich wrote: post #154

When researching family cars recently, I literally avoided the Honda CR-V just because the AC was controlled via the touch screen. There's a "Climate" button, which brings up a screen on the display where you can turn the aircon on/off, up/down, etc. It's just horrendous. Give me my dials. My worst gripe - which all modern cars have - is the aggressive bluetooth auto-connect. If my wife takes the car, it will automat…

I’m really becoming pretty convinced that audio is not an acceptable use case for Bluetooth.

Just so much jank, and that’s before you get to most devices only supporting lossy encoding.

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by illumin8 »

doctor_eval wrote: post #205
gbin wrote: post #142

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To me, this is definitely a major safety hazard to rely on voice command. If you just get splashed and in a stressed out voice you ask for wipers and your car might not understand you.

actually the wipers have a physical one-shot button on the stalk.

Yeah, hilarious how people are complaining about wipers when they literally have a 1-shot button on the stalk to trigger a quick blast at any time. Hold down for 2 seconds to get wiper fluid/de-icer. Seems like Tesla actually has the safety feature you want.

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by speedgoose »

8n4vidtmkvmk wrote: post #213
cdepman wrote: post #75

Wonderful. I recently rented a model 3 and found it incredibly frustrating that it required multiple touches to adjust settings that would be a single button press on a more traditional car. Don’t even get me started on the windshield wipers - a total nightmare in winter storms and located on the left stalk? These are safety concerns. As long as humans are operating these dangerous vehicles, I vote for fewer driver d…

At least you only rented it. I've never driven a Tesla but I don't have to to know that would be horrible.

You better not drive one because you may be surprised.

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Post by NoZebra120vClip »

jjkmk wrote: post #112
NoZebra120vClip wrote: post #106

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Shouldn't there be, like, a glut of parts on the gray market if they are stolen so often? They don't end up in chop-shops?

They steal them drive them around recklessly for a few hours, the crash into a light pole. Its not professional criminals stealing these cars, its 13 year old kids: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbTrLyqL_nw

Yeah, but a crashed auto is an instant organ donor of myriad parts. What happens to the crashed cars?

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Post by thaumasiotes »

beAbU wrote: post #225
8n4vidtmkvmk wrote: post #211

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There is a magic solution. It's called "Ask the user". All these companies think they know what's best for users, with their minimal settings, AI, and auto-magic this-that. Just ask .

"Hey, last time you drove in me you were listening to music via bluetooth. I found the following _two_ devices that I can connect to. Whuch one do you want?" Perfect solution for the touch screen. Show a bunch of fat icons for all the found and paired devices. Usually it'll be 2-3 devices. Make it easy to tap your option as you are getting settled in the car.

That doesn't come close to being a perfect solution for the touch screen. This one is vastly better:

1. Eliminate the screen.

2. Provide an audio port.

3. When audio comes in through the port, play it over the car speakers.

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Post by [deleted] »

gffrd wrote: post #201
tastysandwich wrote: post #154

When researching family cars recently, I literally avoided the Honda CR-V just because the AC was controlled via the touch screen. There's a "Climate" button, which brings up a screen on the display where you can turn the aircon on/off, up/down, etc. It's just horrendous. Give me my dials. My worst gripe - which all modern cars have - is the aggressive bluetooth auto-connect. If my wife takes the car, it will automat…

The other day, I was taking a call on my iPhone, over the earpiece, in my office suite's lobby. The connection was rock solid, and then out of nowhere the audio just disappeared, without warning … but the call didn't drop. A few seconds later it returned. The person on the other end said they heard what sounded like a child for a second. I was perplexed. Fast forward a week, and this happens again. I look at the call…

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Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by kristopolous »

modeless wrote: post #239
kristopolous wrote: post #219

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I really want an option like this Enable [ X ] Audio [ ] Phone Calls Because I never, not one single time, wanted a phone call to blast over my car audio. Not once. I can't be the only one that has wanted the car to be a speakerphone exactly 0 times. Heck maybe someone is the opposite. They love terrestrial radio or their CD collection and also the speakerphone feature. Give people options.

Is this not a thing? My phone has the option to disable phone calls but leave audio enabled. Also my car now asks before transferring a call in progress from the phone to the car instead of doing it automatically when it's in range.

Oh it is! It might be new. It's yet another reminder to constantly recheck things and not assume things don't change

I wonder if it works. Thanks. I'll try it!

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by CGamesPlay »

tastysandwich wrote: post #154

When researching family cars recently, I literally avoided the Honda CR-V just because the AC was controlled via the touch screen. There's a "Climate" button, which brings up a screen on the display where you can turn the aircon on/off, up/down, etc. It's just horrendous. Give me my dials. My worst gripe - which all modern cars have - is the aggressive bluetooth auto-connect. If my wife takes the car, it will automat…

The sibling comments here are hilarious, but I actually prefer the Bluetooth auto-connect. "When it works" it's even better than a headphone jack. There is definitely more room for customization of the nuance, though. I could easily see a per-device setting on the phone to allow it to pair automatically or manually.

Re: Hyundai promises to keep buttons in cars

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Post by [deleted] »

nerdponx wrote: post #118
pif wrote: post #23

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No, you are missing the point! With a row of buttons, you can count and you do not need visual attention. With a screen, instead, you must look even to understand whether you are on a clickable object at all!

Great, we have gone from a horrible and extremely unsafe design to a bad and mildly unsafe design. What happened to the ~5 decades of design ranging from "decent" to "great"? Even the worst-designed dashboard of the early 00s was better than what we have now in many cases. Give me my damn knobs back.

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