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Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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post #225

is mastodon content indexed somewhere? i.e. is it possible to do a general search and find shared stuff? i've never used it, just asking because I'm curious.

It's on the web for the most part, indexed by Google.

ex: https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Amastodon.social+hacke...

The search within the app is mostly not working and crap, unless you use hashtags (and the toots were created with hashtags)

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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post #180

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>but to me this sounds like a distopian place where anyone that does not align with the "correct worldview" is made to disappear and never be heard of again. You misunderstand. Being banned from a Mastodon instance doesn't mean you disappear never to be heard from again. No one is going to try to murder you. You're still allowed to participate in society and communicate. Also, the "correct worldview" in this context…

Furthermore, leftism needs to have these banning-systems because modern leftism cannot survive in a free speech environment. This is why all leftists started leaving twitter when Musk took over and promised free speech (not freedom of reach), they knew instantly that the gig was up.

uh-uh-uh-uh, wait a minute, please contain your prejudice. First off, you're talking of a very narrow and US-centric definition of "leftist". Second, it's tiresome to hear this constant whining about "leftists" that cannot tolerate (or in your version, survive free speech) different views. It's simply not true, what doesn't rub well is constant complaints about being disrepsected for maintaining some frankly disrespectable opinions. That simple...

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Ok- but what if the planet isn't destroyed after all? What makes you believe we have any control over the climate? What makes you believe that in the sham democracy, your vote makes any difference?

> What makes you believe we have any control over the climate? CO2 has two vibrational modes that are IR active. We release carbon as CO2 into the atmosphere that was previously bound inside the earth's crust. Humans increased the CO2 concentration from 280ppm to 420ppm (pre-industrial -> today). The science is settled. Whether you believe in it or not: Global warming is happening and humans are causing it. I underst…

> The science is settled.

Well, we'll see. There are predictions of global devastation within the next decade.

> But physics doesn't care if you want it to be true or not.

It's not about that. Rather it's about the law of slow-moving disasters.

For example, what if I told you there was a train coming down the tracks that is about to flatten you. Would you be scared? What if I told you it was coming at you at 1cm/year. Would you be scared then?

This is the law of slow-moving disasters. We tend not to notice them in practice. If the weather changes year to year on the time-scale of decades or centuries, the rate of change is so low that buildings will simply be replaced over time. In extreme cases, populations will migrate.

Ancient humans have lived in climates both much warmer, and much cooler than those we currently experience.

> trust me, I would also love if it turned out to be wrong

I think I trust you. You seem like a stand-up guy, but understand that there is a huge amount of power to be distilled out of this. So there are a great number of people who are heavily incentivised to look the other way if there are any unanswered questions.

For a parallel example, see the refusal to acknowledge side effects including mycardiatus from COVID vaccinations.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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As someone who'd consider themselves progressive by the yardstick of 10 years ago but not measured to the new progressives of today, the most visible toxic-but-cozy-because-our-silo was that BIPOC people don't need to use content warning (CW) labels when site guidelines say use CW labels on political toots. The reason given was that white people must not be able to opt out of the BIPOC experience of political outrage…

What forum are you talking about. All of Mastadon? Doesn't each instance have its own rules? > As someone who'd consider themselves progressive by the yardstick of 10 years ago but not measured to the new progressives of today ... > The New Left has become unrecognizable to me That's an expected phenomenon. What was progressive yesterday becomes conservative today - think of women's rights, interracial marriage, etc.…

This is true to a point, but it completely disregards the historical phenomenon of the "witch hunt". McCarthyism seemed to originate in a "good place" at first, to most Americans (patriotism and anti-communism). It went so far off the rails that it did great social harm. The same phenomenon of becoming so strident in your position that you persecute "the other" (whatever "other" currently happens to be) is the same phenomenon that leads to things like the Holocaust and burning people at the stake at the extreme end. These extreme social moments in time originate from places of apparent good intentions at many moments in History. These pop up amongst the regular rolling generation gap phenomenon whenever polarization gets too extreme.

Wise people should fear times when people on the ends of the political spectrum do not talk _to_ each other, but only _about_ each other. It should be VERY apparent that we seem to be getting to such a social time (exacerbated by technology driven bubbles), and anyone who dreads the next Burning Times is a wise person.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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How? One's political views are largely an expression of innate personality traits. And, as we have seen, the basket of deplorable includes anyone who is not explicitly left wing.

"the basket of deplorable includes anyone who is not explicitly left wing." Nah. It tends to include neo-nazis, neo-confederates, racists, sexists, white supremacists, kiddy diddlers, and the like. It's not a particularly difficult group to not be a part of.

No. It includes anyone who is opposes left wing ideas and is effective.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

#257

Honestly I really tried to use the fediverse, but its not good enough. Search is hot garbage, can't find anything useful, or what people are actually talking about, not that Twitters search is great by any measure. Missing content when visiting external content, cuz why would anyone ever want to see or search old content. Also most clients I have seen show replies in a really stupid way, you have to actively click to…

Search is only hot garbage if you expect the fediverse to be a global public square, which it isn't. The search drills down into your personal interaction history, and that's great.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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post #154

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> So long as you lean to progressive worldviews and see insult slinging at those that don't see your way not as being toxic, but rather just expressions of righteous indignation. I'm not sure which mastodon server you are on, or which ones you're linked with, but I'm on Universeodon and I've frankly seen nothing of the sort. You do have a point of course, but I haven't seen any sort of toxic behaviour. Toxic and hate…

> Toxic and hateful people simply get banned I don't know if that's supposed to sound like a good thing, but to me this sounds like a distopian place where anyone that does not align with the "correct worldview" is made to disappear and never be heard of again. If you think "only bad people are toxic", you probably haven't been to many debates where your viewpoint happens to be the minority viewpoint.

I don’t know why HN seems to have a culture of confusing minority opinions for toxicity and hate.

If you are against gay marriage there’s nothing at all toxic or hateful about that. Hell, I know gay people who were against gay marriage when the public debate was at its peak.

Where it’s toxic is if any time a gay person talks about wedding planning, posts a meme about the phrase “her wife” having good energy, or shares art of two guys at the altar you appear in the replies to get on your soapbox and start an argument about gay marriage. Nobody asked. Alternatively, just like HN, if your account is entirely flamebait about gay marriage nobody wants to see that and you’ll get the hammer.

Where it’s hate is when you express the that you’re against gay marriage because you don’t want to see gay people to be out in public, you think affection between two men is disgusting and unnatural, you call their sexual orientation a lifestyle choice, call gay people pedos, or otherwise pick on, doxx, belittle, or dehumanize gay people.

Like y’all, it isn’t that hard to expressly minority opinions without being toxic or hateful. I express minority opinions constantly and have never once even been worried about the banhammer.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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post #208

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> That's not so much problem solving as just obstructionism. Surely there are things to be done that don't depend at all on what the competition is doing. My government have made it very difficult for me to take my own health, retirement savings, home improvement and often financial decisions into my own hands. Typically the way his happens is that some leftist will be responsible although in the case of the financia…

> My government have made it very difficult for me to take my own health, retirement savings, home improvement and often financial decisions into my own hands. > ... > If I am too effective at savings then there will also be attempts to gain control of the savings and funnel them into causes I usually think are poorly chosen Right, that's exactly what I was talking about. We can agree on the surface about some things…

Three posts ago you were pointing out obstructionism, now you're saying we have fundamental incompatibilities that can only be resolved by putting money into a pot and having it spent the way you want it to be.

I put it to you that it isn't 'obstructionism', it is plain old disagreement. Or if you prefer, the left is being just as obstructionist in blocking the right from making their own decisions. The only difference is where the obstructions are happening.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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post #214

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> Civil rights trumps freedom of association, and indeed all other rights.

Wait, I can't ask you to leave my property because I don't like what you're saying? Also, isn't freedom of association explicitly a civil right?

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