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Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by realjhol »

_fizz_buzz_ wrote: post #167
roenxi wrote: post #118

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If you want to set yourself an interesting challenge, try to figure out why it is you think being on the right wing of politics is incompatible with those opinions. The right wing is large and has lots of factions, with the only thing uniting them being resistance to the left's attempts to reform the system. The big divide isn't over specific beliefs and policies as much as whether you believe the current system tend…

Global warming will be by far the biggest challenge going forward. As long as parties on "the right" don't believe in it, or take it seriously or don't address it appropriately there is no way in hell for me to ever consider voting for anything on that spectrum. I can deal with a little over the top wokeness. I cannot deal with the destruction of the planet.

Ok- but what if the planet isn't destroyed after all?

What makes you believe we have any control over the climate?

What makes you believe that in the sham democracy, your vote makes any difference?

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by somewhat_drunk »

redeeman wrote: post #170
jeroenhd wrote: post #131

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In my experience, the blacklists are all pretty sensible. Mostly porn, neonazis, that kind of stuff. I haven't opened Gab in a while so I just loaded the front page, and I can see why Mastodon moderators don't want to deal with them either. The content is not as blatantly illegal as many other blacklisted sites, but the front page is incredibly toxic and hateful. I would block most of those posts if they woulf ever h…

its kinda easy to be labelled neonazi these days

And yet, somehow, I have avoided it. Curious.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by andlarry »

ilyt wrote: post #190
andlarry wrote: post #185

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> For example, 15-20 years ago we had conservatives yelling video games are the devil and they need to be censored and some topics not even touched. My memory of the 2003 to 2008 time frame is different. I recall mainstream complaints about GTA 3, released 2001. Famously, Senator Clinton asked the FTC to investigate GTA 3 over the "hot coffee" mod in 2005. There was also the 2005 California Law [0] that banned the sa…

Before that we also had various moral panics, like the one about roleplaying games pushing "the devil". And for many years (still rears its ugly head from time to time) "the game violence causes real violence" garbage.

> Before that we also had various moral panics, like the one about roleplaying games pushing "the devil".

Ahh, ok. So the moral panic of the early 80s, about 40 years ago.

The "video games cause real violence" argument was personified by Tipper Gore in the 90s, more than 30 years ago.

I don't recall anything from 15-20 years ago particular to conservatives. It has been mainstream since the 90s.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by mmargerum »

sbuttgereit wrote: post #33
nforgerit wrote: post #18

After about 6 months hosting my own little private Mastodon instance, I can say the following things: (1) Whoever cares about that but the atmosphere is nice, cozy, exciting and creative. Zero toxicity and probably several magnitudes more meaningful conversations with people from all around the world. This apparently comes from the kinds of people I could find and connect with. (2) Hosting is relatively easy. I think…

" Zero toxicity and probably several magnitudes more meaningful conversations with people from all around the world. This apparently comes from the kinds of people I could find and connect with. " So long as you lean to progressive worldviews and see insult slinging at those that don't see your way not as being toxic, but rather just expressions of righteous indignation... sure, I could buy that line. A quick perusal…

Twitter has gotten better. probably for the reasons you mention.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by nicoburns »

realjhol wrote: post #200
krapp wrote: post #180

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>but to me this sounds like a distopian place where anyone that does not align with the "correct worldview" is made to disappear and never be heard of again. You misunderstand. Being banned from a Mastodon instance doesn't mean you disappear never to be heard from again. No one is going to try to murder you. You're still allowed to participate in society and communicate. Also, the "correct worldview" in this context…

I had to leave an instance because the maintainer said pro-life views were forbidden. Didn't matter whether you expressed them or not - the owner had a policy against private opinions. I agree with your point about freedom of association, but let's not pretend this is just limited to racism. And if you support the concept of free association, what do you do when it collides with civil rights law?

The great thing about Mastadon is that you're not actually excluded by being banned from a particular instance, you can go and join an instance that is aligned with your worldview (and as I understand it, still interact with people from other instances).

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by roenxi »

dale_glass wrote: post #186
roenxi wrote: post #162

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> Which is by and large the entire problem. The right is rarely interested in solving problems. The right are very interested in solving problems; but they are defined by identifying the plans of the left as the biggest problem. That is basically why they pick up the label "conservative", the right only exists as a political unit to resist threats from the left. Otherwise the right generally favours non-government ap…

> The right are very interested in solving problems; but they are defined by identifying the plans of the left as the biggest problem. That's not so much problem solving as just obstructionism. Surely there are things to be done that don't depend at all on what the competition is doing. > Otherwise the right generally favours non-government approaches to problem solving (partially in an attempt to stop empowering lef…

> That's not so much problem solving as just obstructionism. Surely there are things to be done that don't depend at all on what the competition is doing.

My government have made it very difficult for me to take my own health, retirement savings, home improvement and often financial decisions into my own hands. Typically the way his happens is that some leftist will be responsible although in the case of the financial stuff it tends to be nonpartisan corruption. If I am too effective at savings then there will also be attempts to gain control of the savings and funnel them into causes I usually think are poorly chosen. Ignoring the left is not really an option; they'll identify resources and come for them to fund their own plans. Otherwise the awkward truth is that controlling government wouldn't be such a big deal.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by baxuz »

Can someone please explain how Mastodon is anything else except Reddit with more hoops to jump through?

You have users, subreddits (servers), and mods.

Except everything is federated, so you also have the overhead of choosing your server or making a ton of alt accounts. Flashback to old MMO times.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by neogodless »

lazzlazzlazz wrote: post #110

Individual Mastodon instances have already begun exhibiting insane behavior, and relying on someone else's fiefdom isn't for me. Social media should give full control to the user on top of a credibly neutral layer.

What's an example of social media where the user has full control?

Does that not equate to all forms of spam, harassment, flooding, etc. having to be dealt with on an individual basis by every user?

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