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Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by thejohnconway »

davnicwil wrote: post #7

Anyone know how a decentralised system like mastadon can meaningfully assess user count? In terms of accounts corresponding to real, distinct people? And has such an analysis been done to produce the numbers this account is reporting?

Mastodon instances report their user user stats via the API. I have a bot the polls about 9000 server federated with my own and just adds them all up. It’s always incomplete, however, because non-Mastodon Fediverse applications like Pleroma and Misskey don’t report user stats.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by numpad0 »

waboremo wrote: post #41
nforgerit wrote: post #18

After about 6 months hosting my own little private Mastodon instance, I can say the following things: (1) Whoever cares about that but the atmosphere is nice, cozy, exciting and creative. Zero toxicity and probably several magnitudes more meaningful conversations with people from all around the world. This apparently comes from the kinds of people I could find and connect with. (2) Hosting is relatively easy. I think…

It's interesting how many Mastodon users talk about small groups as one of the main selling points, because it's something most platforms do very well actually, yes even Twitter. Discord is another very popular place for small groups to connect, and do so meaningfully and without drama. The real problem, and where Mastodon has been tested numerous times on and failed, is scaling to larger groups. When people aren't u…

Not sure if the blacklist has to do with keeping community nice - I believe the point of the blacklist virtue signaling to a) get around oppressive App Store behavior around Gab, and b) avoid dealing with European laws.

Both causes are entirely external to the Fediverse, and I haven't seen groups of "bad people" having to be cut off by blacklisting, so I'm not sure if I'm convinced that the list is necessary or effective.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by roenxi »

_fizz_buzz_ wrote: post #167
roenxi wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want to set yourself an interesting challenge, try to figure out why it is you think being on the right wing of politics is incompatible with those opinions. The right wing is large and has lots of factions, with the only thing uniting them being resistance to the left's attempts to reform the system. The big divide isn't over specific beliefs and policies as much as whether you believe the current system tend…

Global warming will be by far the biggest challenge going forward. As long as parties on "the right" don't believe in it, or take it seriously or don't address it appropriately there is no way in hell for me to ever consider voting for anything on that spectrum. I can deal with a little over the top wokeness. I cannot deal with the destruction of the planet.

Hypothetical history books could one day read "and in 2023 the Russians nuked New York". Probably in some African script since they'd be talking about the end of civilisation in the northern hemisphere.

While I don't want to try and defend every right wing policy, the crowd who think global warming is the biggest challenge we face have been outplayed by the very real disasters and escalations we've been facing since 2020. The well resourced anti-US axis that is developing between Russia and China is a much bigger threat than difficulties adjusting to climate change. Which have generally been fairly minor challenges in the official reporting.

All the evidence I see is I'm more likely to die in a fire caused by soldiers than power plants.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by thejohnconway »

jonas-w wrote: post #10

It's interesting that there are normally 10.000-40.000 [0] toots per hour and it skyrockets up to 8.000.000 toots per hour in this graph, how is this possible? [0] based on a graph before these huge spikes https://mastodon.social/@mastodonusercount/11003025216596297...

That bot is notorious for spurious spikes, often making the graphs unreadable. It’s open source, but it’s using an API, not doing its own polling, so it’s hard to dig into what’s going on.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by andlarry »

ilyt wrote: post #147
emptysongglass wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who'd consider themselves progressive by the yardstick of 10 years ago but not measured to the new progressives of today, the most visible toxic-but-cozy-because-our-silo was that BIPOC people don't need to use content warning (CW) labels when site guidelines say use CW labels on political toots. The reason given was that white people must not be able to opt out of the BIPOC experience of political outrage…

Same. Today world is some bizzaro dimension. For example, 15-20 years ago we had conservatives yelling video games are the devil and they need to be censored and some topics not even touched. Now I see same shit from "left" (it's not progressive, it's some fascist facsimile of it) and weirdly enough, a lot of gaming journalism that seems to hate their own audience now. > The reason given was that white people must no…

> For example, 15-20 years ago we had conservatives yelling video games are the devil and they need to be censored and some topics not even touched.

My memory of the 2003 to 2008 time frame is different.

I recall mainstream complaints about GTA 3, released 2001. Famously, Senator Clinton asked the FTC to investigate GTA 3 over the "hot coffee" mod in 2005.

There was also the 2005 California Law [0] that banned the sale of violent video games to minors.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_v._Entertainment_Merchan...

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by dale_glass »

roenxi wrote: post #162
dale_glass wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you want to set yourself an interesting challenge, try to figure out why it is you think being on the right wing of politics is incompatible with those opinions. The right wing is large and has lots of factions, with the only thing uniting them being resistance to the left's attempts to reform the system. Which is by and large the entire problem. The right is rarely interested in solving problems. So I could fin…

> Which is by and large the entire problem. The right is rarely interested in solving problems. The right are very interested in solving problems; but they are defined by identifying the plans of the left as the biggest problem. That is basically why they pick up the label "conservative", the right only exists as a political unit to resist threats from the left. Otherwise the right generally favours non-government ap…

> The right are very interested in solving problems; but they are defined by identifying the plans of the left as the biggest problem.

That's not so much problem solving as just obstructionism. Surely there are things to be done that don't depend at all on what the competition is doing.

> Otherwise the right generally favours non-government approaches to problem solving (partially in an attempt to stop empowering leftists who tend to infest bureaucracies).

No, the right favors non-government approaches because they want to pick and choose. They for instance heavily endorse personal charity because you get to pick who you help.

I on the other hand think there should be a floor in society below which nobody is allowed to fall, and that it ideally should be implemented in a fully blind and dispassionate manner, eg, UBI. Everyone gets it automatically no questions asked, without needing to be liked by the local community.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by bluedino »

whywhywhydude wrote: post #48

I wish they changed the name to something better. Would probably increase adoption greatly if they can come up with a name that doesn’t sound like a porn site specializing in bondage.

The name is fine. I always think of the heavy metal band.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by NoGravitas »

bmacho wrote: post #164
zimpenfish wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Brutaldon[1] works fine without JS (although it doesn't currently work with Akkoma or ~GotoSocial~ instances.) Edit: Just checked with a new checkout and it's working with my GTS instance. Now to figure out how to make it work with Akkoma... [1] https://gitlab.com/brutaldon/brutaldon

Thanks! How can I read with it for example https://mastodon.social/@mastodonusercount/11005195786562981... ?

Log into an instance you have an account on through brutaldon, then paste the URL in the search box. It's not a no-login-url-passthrough like Nitter.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by ilyt »

jeroenhd wrote: post #176
ilyt wrote: post #165

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> My experience is that most digital free speech absolutionists just seem to be upset that they were banned from Twitter for promoting some kind of QAnon conspiracy or for hate speech. Well, they are the loud and annoying ones but it's easy to miss others for the noise the unreasonable people are causing > I personally think the ActivityPub/Mastodon approach of "let server moderators decide which servers can't intera…

Moderators blocking other servers is an essential part of the federated ecosystem in my opinion. When another account (or, with many accounts, another server) is causing tons of moderation reports, blocking that server is essential. Allowing the content to appear anyway will cause boosts, reactions, and then more moderation reports. Moderators are the ones who have to deal with all of the crap being flung into the et…

> Moderators blocking other servers is an essential part of the federated ecosystem in my opinion. When another account (or, with many accounts, another server) is causing tons of moderation reports, blocking that server is essential. Allowing the content to appear anyway will cause boosts, reactions, and then more moderation reports. Moderators are the ones who have to deal with all of the crap being flung into the ether so it makes sense to give them the power to choose what servers they want to bother moderating for.

I meant it in "moderators control what shows to people but if you subscribe to someone on the other server you still get their updates" way. Then for the rest it could be AND kind of deal, if the server-blocked user you're answering is blocked they don't see it unless they also subscribed to them.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

#190

Post by ilyt »

andlarry wrote: post #185
ilyt wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same. Today world is some bizzaro dimension. For example, 15-20 years ago we had conservatives yelling video games are the devil and they need to be censored and some topics not even touched. Now I see same shit from "left" (it's not progressive, it's some fascist facsimile of it) and weirdly enough, a lot of gaming journalism that seems to hate their own audience now. > The reason given was that white people must no…

> For example, 15-20 years ago we had conservatives yelling video games are the devil and they need to be censored and some topics not even touched. My memory of the 2003 to 2008 time frame is different. I recall mainstream complaints about GTA 3, released 2001. Famously, Senator Clinton asked the FTC to investigate GTA 3 over the "hot coffee" mod in 2005. There was also the 2005 California Law [0] that banned the sa…

Before that we also had various moral panics, like the one about roleplaying games pushing "the devil".

And for many years (still rears its ugly head from time to time) "the game violence causes real violence" garbage.

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