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Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by zimpenfish »

numpad0 wrote: post #100
the_third_wave wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the undesirable instances Which would that be? Undesirable by whom? Who gets to decide whether an instance is "undesirable"? I'd think that what is undesirable to one is the bee's knees to the other. Who is to be the arbiter of desirability? In a truly distributed system the answer would be 'nobody - everybody'. Are you talking about instances which are blocked in the source code of Mastodon? Blocked in some of the…

If GP meant 2nd and 3rd largest instances, Pawoo and mstdn.jp - those are on the https://instances.social/instances.json that is supposed to be the data source, with 839k/338k users with 70M/65M statuses respectively. Along the mastodon.social with 1M users and 53M statuses, the top 3 account for 2.2M or 1/5th of claimed 10M users... But something seems off. "users" key on that .json only adds up to 7816421, not 10M.…

If you only include instances where up = true, it drops to 4.9M.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by roenxi »

dale_glass wrote: post #145
roenxi wrote: post #118

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If you want to set yourself an interesting challenge, try to figure out why it is you think being on the right wing of politics is incompatible with those opinions. The right wing is large and has lots of factions, with the only thing uniting them being resistance to the left's attempts to reform the system. The big divide isn't over specific beliefs and policies as much as whether you believe the current system tend…

> If you want to set yourself an interesting challenge, try to figure out why it is you think being on the right wing of politics is incompatible with those opinions. The right wing is large and has lots of factions, with the only thing uniting them being resistance to the left's attempts to reform the system. Which is by and large the entire problem. The right is rarely interested in solving problems. So I could fin…

> Which is by and large the entire problem. The right is rarely interested in solving problems.

The right are very interested in solving problems; but they are defined by identifying the plans of the left as the biggest problem. That is basically why they pick up the label "conservative", the right only exists as a political unit to resist threats from the left. Otherwise the right generally favours non-government approaches to problem solving (partially in an attempt to stop empowering leftists who tend to infest bureaucracies). And every faction generally keeps busy dealing with their own perceived problems.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by sillyfluke »

wolverine876 wrote: post #97
emptysongglass wrote: post #81

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As someone who'd consider themselves progressive by the yardstick of 10 years ago but not measured to the new progressives of today, the most visible toxic-but-cozy-because-our-silo was that BIPOC people don't need to use content warning (CW) labels when site guidelines say use CW labels on political toots. The reason given was that white people must not be able to opt out of the BIPOC experience of political outrage…

What forum are you talking about. All of Mastadon? Doesn't each instance have its own rules? > As someone who'd consider themselves progressive by the yardstick of 10 years ago but not measured to the new progressives of today ... > The New Left has become unrecognizable to me That's an expected phenomenon. What was progressive yesterday becomes conservative today - think of women's rights, interracial marriage, etc.…

>That's an expected phenomenon. What was progressive yesterday becomes conservative today - think of women's rights, interracial marriage, etc. The same goes for 'who' was progressive.

I think it would have been worth it to give this more than a moments thought. A quick glance at 20th century events shows fascism and communist dictatorships being seen as more fashionable and modern than flaky Weimar republics and crumbling empires. The next 50-80 years nevertheless showed history bending haphazaradly away from these trends. In the least, taking for granted that what follows is inevitably more progressive seems a tad rash.

What's far more interesting is examining the thoughts and actions of the inglorious bastards, both young and old, who at the time recognized early on that This Was Not The Way, and with what critera they did so.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by bmacho »

zimpenfish wrote: post #153
bmacho wrote: post #133

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There are no non-js clients (that I am aware of) yet. Twitter is still way more accessible and privacy friendly, due to nitter.

Brutaldon[1] works fine without JS (although it doesn't currently work with Akkoma or ~GotoSocial~ instances.) Edit: Just checked with a new checkout and it's working with my GTS instance. Now to figure out how to make it work with Akkoma... [1] https://gitlab.com/brutaldon/brutaldon

Thanks!

How can I read with it for example

https://mastodon.social/@mastodonusercount/11005195786562981...

?

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by ilyt »

jeroenhd wrote: post #139
lazzlazzlazz wrote: post #110

Individual Mastodon instances have already begun exhibiting insane behavior, and relying on someone else's fiefdom isn't for me. Social media should give full control to the user on top of a credibly neutral layer.

The neutral layer approach which some decentralised alternatives seem to favour isn't all that great in my opinion. Browsing the commonly blacklisted Mastodon instances has given me more than enough reason to not want to moderate that crap. From AI generated child porn to calls for various genocides, there's plenty of disgusting material posted online that I'm not willing to sift through. When a server's front page i…

> My experience is that most digital free speech absolutionists just seem to be upset that they were banned from Twitter for promoting some kind of QAnon conspiracy or for hate speech.

Well, they are the loud and annoying ones but it's easy to miss others for the noise the unreasonable people are causing

> I personally think the ActivityPub/Mastodon approach of "let server moderators decide which servers can't interact with their servers anymore" approach is very reasonable. If Gab and Truth Social want to federate, they can, and if you want to set up your own server without blacklists you're completely free to.

The moderation of instance feed is just fine and required, that's how instance gets its own identity.

What I disagree with is mods having rights to block what people can subscribe to. That forces making own instances just not to be on whim on the admins's political views which is far too high barrier to entry for most.

There is also lack of any identity transfer, if server goes to shit you can move out sure, but none of your subscribers will automatically follow. I'd like something like "here is my DNS entry with public key, this redirects to whichever current server I'm on" so you don't need to host your own instance if you just want to have alias that's not tied to, again, admin's whims.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by _fizz_buzz_ »

roenxi wrote: post #118
Escapado wrote: post #108

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I would consider myself left leaning and still wish to see a lot of progress and change but I disagree with quite a few talking points of what might be considered the current “zeitgeist” of the far left. Would I consider misgendendering a _violent_ hate crime? No. Am I for more inclusion and free choice of gender identity? Yes. Do I think that pure socialism will save humanity? No. Do I think it’s bad we have people…

If you want to set yourself an interesting challenge, try to figure out why it is you think being on the right wing of politics is incompatible with those opinions. The right wing is large and has lots of factions, with the only thing uniting them being resistance to the left's attempts to reform the system. The big divide isn't over specific beliefs and policies as much as whether you believe the current system tend…

Global warming will be by far the biggest challenge going forward. As long as parties on "the right" don't believe in it, or take it seriously or don't address it appropriately there is no way in hell for me to ever consider voting for anything on that spectrum. I can deal with a little over the top wokeness. I cannot deal with the destruction of the planet.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by sbuttgereit »

nforgerit wrote: post #61
sbuttgereit wrote: post #59

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If I'm a casual user without any great motivation for learning the arcane ways of "The Fediverse"... someone just looking for someway to get into this Mastodon thing I keep hearing about: a normal, everyday user. I'm going to probably go to some search engine and type in "Mastodon" or "Mastodon social network". Using DuckDuckGo, many of the first links show up pointing to mastodon.social or server lookups operated fr…

Your link is pointing to the general mastodon.social instance and not to birds.town. To see local birds.town posts, go to [0]. Looks like birds-only to me w/o any politics, tho I'm not aware of any of these birds' political preferences. And generally, whenever there's people annoying me, I just unfollow/mute/block them - problem solved. [0] https://birds.town/public/local

This is correct, but the birding server served that link to me while just perusing its default landing page.

The point I was answering was that I saw what I saw because I used a single instance of a Federated service (mastodon.social)... my counter-point here was that the instance really didn't matter. I was served, by default, largely the same toxic content across the 20 or so servers I ended up landing on.

Yes, I can unfollow, mute, block, etc. anyone that I decide isn't someone I want in my life. But I'm pretty sure I could do that on Twitter, too (could be wrong, I've not been there for a long time). Life's too short. Maybe the local feed would have been much better... or maybe the warm cozy Mastodon isn't that which competes with Twitter, but that which competes with Discourse or Discord.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by Hamuko »

dom96 wrote: post #15

Shameless plug: I created a browser extension to help transition to Mastodon[0]. If you don't yet feel like you can leave twitter.com, but want to explore alternatives it's a great way to get started. Essentially it injects Mastodon posts into your Twitter timeline, so you can retain your existing Twitter following while getting exposed to Mastodon. [0] - https://chirper.picheta.me

That sounds kinda backwards. If I'm staying on Twitter, what's the value-add from having Mastodon posts there? I've witnessed very few individuals drop Twitter completely in favour of Mastodon.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by redeeman »

jeroenhd wrote: post #131
gray_charger wrote: post #50

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Most likely, yes. Those with a different worldview are cut off from the fediverse and many client apps blacklist those instances that gain momentum from being usable in the client app. For example, Gab.

In my experience, the blacklists are all pretty sensible. Mostly porn, neonazis, that kind of stuff. I haven't opened Gab in a while so I just loaded the front page, and I can see why Mastodon moderators don't want to deal with them either. The content is not as blatantly illegal as many other blacklisted sites, but the front page is incredibly toxic and hateful. I would block most of those posts if they woulf ever h…

its kinda easy to be labelled neonazi these days
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