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Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by jeroenhd »

EamonnMR wrote: post #38

Being able to follow just hashtags and users and never getting recommended garbage is very nice. I mostly just use Twitter to follow Dril now.

I'm sure Twitter will kill them one of these days, but services like https://bird.makeup/users/Dril/remote_follow exist, which allow you to follow Twitter users on Mastodon.

This has the downside of missing interactivity and incomplete reaction chains, but as someone who's usually not interested in either it's been good enough for me to remove Twitter from my pinned tabs.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by [deleted] »

jghn wrote: post #27
Method-X wrote: post #6

Doesn't look like there are many active users.

I almost never log on to my Mastodon account. When I do, I always say I should do so more as the vast majority of the people I really enjoyed following on Twitter are on there. But the thing is, I just hate the Mastodon UI. It's so clunky. And the lack of things like centralized search are a big issue for me. I dislike the federated nature of it. In short, it's just not to me. Which sucks, as that's where a lot of th…

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Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

#143

Post by jeroenhd »

seba_dos1 wrote: post #29
jghn wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I almost never log on to my Mastodon account. When I do, I always say I should do so more as the vast majority of the people I really enjoyed following on Twitter are on there. But the thing is, I just hate the Mastodon UI. It's so clunky. And the lack of things like centralized search are a big issue for me. I dislike the federated nature of it. In short, it's just not to me. Which sucks, as that's where a lot of th…

> But the thing is, I just hate the Mastodon UI. Which one?

The Mastodon project only comes with one UI. There are forks and alternatives, and themed instances of course, but those aren't really "the mastodon UI".

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by ilyt »

sbuttgereit wrote: post #33
nforgerit wrote: post #18

After about 6 months hosting my own little private Mastodon instance, I can say the following things: (1) Whoever cares about that but the atmosphere is nice, cozy, exciting and creative. Zero toxicity and probably several magnitudes more meaningful conversations with people from all around the world. This apparently comes from the kinds of people I could find and connect with. (2) Hosting is relatively easy. I think…

" Zero toxicity and probably several magnitudes more meaningful conversations with people from all around the world. This apparently comes from the kinds of people I could find and connect with. " So long as you lean to progressive worldviews and see insult slinging at those that don't see your way not as being toxic, but rather just expressions of righteous indignation... sure, I could buy that line. A quick perusal…

It was designed to be "bubbly". The fact by default its moderator of the instance deciding who their users can subscribe to naturally leads to that, for better or worse; if you don't want a nanny you pretty much have to host your own instance. Public feed fair enough, that has to be moderated but the fact mod can block who I subscribe to rubs me the wrong way.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by dale_glass »

roenxi wrote: post #118
Escapado wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would consider myself left leaning and still wish to see a lot of progress and change but I disagree with quite a few talking points of what might be considered the current “zeitgeist” of the far left. Would I consider misgendendering a _violent_ hate crime? No. Am I for more inclusion and free choice of gender identity? Yes. Do I think that pure socialism will save humanity? No. Do I think it’s bad we have people…

If you want to set yourself an interesting challenge, try to figure out why it is you think being on the right wing of politics is incompatible with those opinions. The right wing is large and has lots of factions, with the only thing uniting them being resistance to the left's attempts to reform the system. The big divide isn't over specific beliefs and policies as much as whether you believe the current system tend…

> If you want to set yourself an interesting challenge, try to figure out why it is you think being on the right wing of politics is incompatible with those opinions. The right wing is large and has lots of factions, with the only thing uniting them being resistance to the left's attempts to reform the system.

Which is by and large the entire problem. The right is rarely interested in solving problems.

So I could find minor points of agreement -- there's certainly people out there who are a tad too radical for my taste. The problem is that in general though I'm very much in favor of change, and the right isn't.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

#146

Post by malwrar »

spicyusername wrote: post #51
whywhywhydude wrote: post #48

I wish they changed the name to something better. Would probably increase adoption greatly if they can come up with a name that doesn’t sound like a porn site specializing in bondage.

How does "Mastodon" evoke that for you!?

Mastodon looks like “master-dom” or “masto(urba…) dom” or similar. I also have experience with people giving a weird eye when I mention the name, it’s not pen island or anything but it’s close enough to have caused nonzero issues.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by ilyt »

emptysongglass wrote: post #81
sbuttgereit wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

" Zero toxicity and probably several magnitudes more meaningful conversations with people from all around the world. This apparently comes from the kinds of people I could find and connect with. " So long as you lean to progressive worldviews and see insult slinging at those that don't see your way not as being toxic, but rather just expressions of righteous indignation... sure, I could buy that line. A quick perusal…

As someone who'd consider themselves progressive by the yardstick of 10 years ago but not measured to the new progressives of today, the most visible toxic-but-cozy-because-our-silo was that BIPOC people don't need to use content warning (CW) labels when site guidelines say use CW labels on political toots. The reason given was that white people must not be able to opt out of the BIPOC experience of political outrage…

Same. Today world is some bizzaro dimension. For example, 15-20 years ago we had conservatives yelling video games are the devil and they need to be censored and some topics not even touched. Now I see same shit from "left" (it's not progressive, it's some fascist facsimile of it) and weirdly enough, a lot of gaming journalism that seems to hate their own audience now.

> The reason given was that white people must not be able to opt out of the BIPOC experience of political outrage.

...or the modern left being by far the most racist ones out there

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by makomk »

wolverine876 wrote: post #97
emptysongglass wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who'd consider themselves progressive by the yardstick of 10 years ago but not measured to the new progressives of today, the most visible toxic-but-cozy-because-our-silo was that BIPOC people don't need to use content warning (CW) labels when site guidelines say use CW labels on political toots. The reason given was that white people must not be able to opt out of the BIPOC experience of political outrage…

What forum are you talking about. All of Mastadon? Doesn't each instance have its own rules? > As someone who'd consider themselves progressive by the yardstick of 10 years ago but not measured to the new progressives of today ... > The New Left has become unrecognizable to me That's an expected phenomenon. What was progressive yesterday becomes conservative today - think of women's rights, interracial marriage, etc.…

> What was progressive yesterday becomes conservative today - think of women's rights, interracial marriage, etc. The same goes for 'who' was progressive.

That's really not what's been happening here, though, and the extremely online activists are not simply people who are ahead of the curve on pushing to fix society's flaws. For example, take trans rights, the main weapon currently used to demand people get in line - in reality it was the boring, normie mainstream liberals who dragged the online activists into supporting that in the first place, not the other way around. Until just a few years ago they supported anti-trans viewpoints that were way out of kilter with mainstream society and demanded trans women shut up about harassment campaigns that went just as much against mainstream norms and values as the harassment that the online left is apologists for today. There's a good chance this changed through younger people with different views coming in, but they had those views in the first place because society as a whole had already shifted.

The difference really, genuinely, and consistently is just toxicity, extremism, and a refusal to accept that anyone who deviates even an inch from their views is a decent person. Those are the things that have stayed constant even as the arguments and the targets have shifted. The culture shifts easily from expecting trans women to shut up about TERF harassment campaigns to justifying harassment of streamers who play a game based on a franchise by someone who liked tweets containing TERF views because the cruelty is the point. While the views go beyond what mainstream society is willing to accept, the direction is extremely questionable. (For example, there have been multiple ugly Mastodon disputes involving server operators trying to shut people up about the long trail of rape allegations that follow one specific trans woman around, pretty much all from other trans women. Paying attention to them is supposedly hateful and an attack on trans women. Again, this is one specific person who's allegedly doing it, the same one every single time - not trans women as a whole.)

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

#149

Post by LudwigNagasena »

luckylion wrote: post #126
roenxi wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want to set yourself an interesting challenge, try to figure out why it is you think being on the right wing of politics is incompatible with those opinions. The right wing is large and has lots of factions, with the only thing uniting them being resistance to the left's attempts to reform the system. The big divide isn't over specific beliefs and policies as much as whether you believe the current system tend…

> The big divide isn't over specific beliefs and policies as much as whether you believe the current system tends to favour you or not. I'm not sure about that. I know some conservatives (which I'd consider myself as well, though leaning libertarian) who are very well off but didn't start that way, and their political ideas remained constant. I know others who aren't particularly wealthy, but hold the same ideas. Fun…

UBI or basic welfare is supported by many right-winger opinion leaders, eg Friedman and Hayek.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

#150

Post by ModernMech »

irq wrote: post #72
gray_charger wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most likely, yes. Those with a different worldview are cut off from the fediverse and many client apps blacklist those instances that gain momentum from being usable in the client app. For example, Gab.

> Those with a different worldview are cut off from the fediverse I find this happens most often to people with a worldview that is objectively incompatible with civilization.

They are more than welcome to spew their incompatible worldview on Twitter. I don’t understand why anyone would be upset they don’t feel welcome on Mastodon; they got everything they wanted on Twitter from Musk.
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