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Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by te_304950 » Mon, Mar 20, 2023, 1:05 PM UTC

ilyt wrote: post #147

emptysongglass wrote: post #81

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As someone who'd consider themselves progressive by the yardstick of 10 years ago but not measured to the new progressives of today, the most visible toxic-but-cozy-because-our-silo was that BIPOC people don't need to use content warning (CW) labels when site guidelines say use CW labels on political toots. The reason given was that white people must not be able to opt out of the BIPOC experience of political outrage…

Same. Today world is some bizzaro dimension. For example, 15-20 years ago we had conservatives yelling video games are the devil and they need to be censored and some topics not even touched. Now I see same shit from "left" (it's not progressive, it's some fascist facsimile of it) and weirdly enough, a lot of gaming journalism that seems to hate their own audience now. > The reason given was that white people must no…

Be careful here. The "modern left" is not the ones in the US actually pushing laws to (by legalese and administrative decree) effectively censor opinion and material under the guise of being "too woke".

These days, any social media that allows "silos" eventually settles into such, and they are gate-kept. The strong silo-ing is also IMHO a byproduct of the modern social web of binary upvote / downvotes that fuel algorithmic feeds, a feature not present in the early days of the web, and (my theory) one that tends to reward the "strongest" opinions, which also tend to be the most extreme. "Left" or "right" isn't the problem I see regarding social media, instead it's the overall design. I don't know if Mastodon has avoided this (IMHO) cardinal sin or not.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by raspberry1337 » Mon, Mar 20, 2023, 1:05 PM UTC

hagbarth wrote: post #193

redeeman wrote: post #170

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its kinda easy to be labelled neonazi these days

Is it? Hasn't been a problem for me.

It's not really a problem if none cares who you are.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by realjhol » Mon, Mar 20, 2023, 1:05 PM UTC

LBJsPNS wrote: post #218

realjhol wrote: post #203

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That's because you're not in the "basket of deplorables"

That would seem to be a very easy place to avoid.

How? One's political views are largely an expression of innate personality traits. And, as we have seen, the basket of deplorable includes anyone who is not explicitly left wing.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by ZeroGravitas » Mon, Mar 20, 2023, 1:08 PM UTC

bluescrn wrote: post #177

_fizz_buzz_ wrote: post #167

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Global warming will be by far the biggest challenge going forward. As long as parties on "the right" don't believe in it, or take it seriously or don't address it appropriately there is no way in hell for me to ever consider voting for anything on that spectrum. I can deal with a little over the top wokeness. I cannot deal with the destruction of the planet.

But the catastrophising of climate change is also harmful, and results in people proposing 'solutions' that seem likely to bring about an even faster collapse of civilisation. One 2019 UK report ( https://www.icax.co.uk/pdf/Absolute_Zero_Report.pdf ) proposes a timeline that's been circulating on Twitter, involving the closure of all airports and shutting down all international shipping by 2050, while pricing 40% of…

Even a glance at your own link shows you are misinterpreting it.

> We currently have no non-emitting freight ships, so there is an urgent need for exploration of means to electrify ship power

It seems like you are the one "catastrophising".

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by pictur » Mon, Mar 20, 2023, 1:09 PM UTC

is mastodon content indexed somewhere? i.e. is it possible to do a general search and find shared stuff? i've never used it, just asking because I'm curious.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by realjhol » Mon, Mar 20, 2023, 1:09 PM UTC

LBJsPNS wrote: post #211

realjhol wrote: post #200

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I had to leave an instance because the maintainer said pro-life views were forbidden. Didn't matter whether you expressed them or not - the owner had a policy against private opinions. I agree with your point about freedom of association, but let's not pretend this is just limited to racism. And if you support the concept of free association, what do you do when it collides with civil rights law?

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> How very sad for you. Someone running a private server doesn't want you coming into their living room and taking a dump on the floor, metaphorically speaking. I'm sure if you look around you can find an instance where sexist views are tolerated, and even encouraged.

I'm not a sexist. I love women which is why I don't want them to be killed in the womb.

I didn't do anything in his living room. He said "we don't serve your kind here", so I left.

OK if that's the rules - fine, but don't then complain about your friends being refused service. We either have freedom of association or we don't.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by ocdtrekkie » Mon, Mar 20, 2023, 1:09 PM UTC

KoftaBob wrote: post #137

berkes wrote: post #113

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> Social media should give full control to the user Are you implying this isn't possible with Mastodon/ActivityPub?

It's possible if users host their own Mastodon instance, which for the vast majority of users is way too much of a hassle to do. This is one of the reasons I think the nostr protocol is a better way of building a decentralized + censorship resistant social network. https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nostr#the-problem-with-mas...

There are services which will host your server for you for $6/mo. Your domain, your moderation/rules, can talk to anyone else.

But if you want to hang out for free on someone else's dime, you have to play by their rules.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by ilyt » Mon, Mar 20, 2023, 1:11 PM UTC

LBJsPNS wrote: post #220

ilyt wrote: post #144

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It was designed to be "bubbly". The fact by default its moderator of the instance deciding who their users can subscribe to naturally leads to that, for better or worse; if you don't want a nanny you pretty much have to host your own instance. Public feed fair enough, that has to be moderated but the fact mod can block who I subscribe to rubs me the wrong way.

So set up your own instance. With blackjack. And hookers.

"You are only allowed to see who you want to see if you have technical knowledge and money to set up your own instance" is terrible way for social network

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by ocdtrekkie » Mon, Mar 20, 2023, 1:12 PM UTC

jeroenhd wrote: post #143

seba_dos1 wrote: post #29

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> But the thing is, I just hate the Mastodon UI. Which one?

The Mastodon project only comes with one UI. There are forks and alternatives, and themed instances of course, but those aren't really "the mastodon UI".

Mastodon itself basically has two UIs, a Twitter like simple UI and a Tweetdeck like advanced UI.

And once you get into like mobile client apps, your options absolutely explode.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by realjhol » Mon, Mar 20, 2023, 1:14 PM UTC

krapp wrote: post #214

realjhol wrote: post #200

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I had to leave an instance because the maintainer said pro-life views were forbidden. Didn't matter whether you expressed them or not - the owner had a policy against private opinions. I agree with your point about freedom of association, but let's not pretend this is just limited to racism. And if you support the concept of free association, what do you do when it collides with civil rights law?

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