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Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by LudwigNagasena »

irq wrote: post #72
gray_charger wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most likely, yes. Those with a different worldview are cut off from the fediverse and many client apps blacklist those instances that gain momentum from being usable in the client app. For example, Gab.

> Those with a different worldview are cut off from the fediverse I find this happens most often to people with a worldview that is objectively incompatible with civilization.

Civilizations were built on slavery, imperialism, xenophobia, exploitation, theft, appropriation and intolerance.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by ilyt »

wolverine876 wrote: post #97
emptysongglass wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who'd consider themselves progressive by the yardstick of 10 years ago but not measured to the new progressives of today, the most visible toxic-but-cozy-because-our-silo was that BIPOC people don't need to use content warning (CW) labels when site guidelines say use CW labels on political toots. The reason given was that white people must not be able to opt out of the BIPOC experience of political outrage…

What forum are you talking about. All of Mastadon? Doesn't each instance have its own rules? > As someone who'd consider themselves progressive by the yardstick of 10 years ago but not measured to the new progressives of today ... > The New Left has become unrecognizable to me That's an expected phenomenon. What was progressive yesterday becomes conservative today - think of women's rights, interracial marriage, etc.…

Weird excuse for rampant racism the "new" progressives are pushing.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by zimpenfish »

bmacho wrote: post #133
jacooper wrote: post #44

Honestly I really tried to use the fediverse, but its not good enough. Search is hot garbage, can't find anything useful, or what people are actually talking about, not that Twitters search is great by any measure. Missing content when visiting external content, cuz why would anyone ever want to see or search old content. Also most clients I have seen show replies in a really stupid way, you have to actively click to…

There are no non-js clients (that I am aware of) yet. Twitter is still way more accessible and privacy friendly, due to nitter.

Brutaldon[1] works fine without JS (although it doesn't currently work with Akkoma or ~GotoSocial~ instances.)

Edit: Just checked with a new checkout and it's working with my GTS instance. Now to figure out how to make it work with Akkoma...

[1] https://gitlab.com/brutaldon/brutaldon

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by devjab »

sbuttgereit wrote: post #33
nforgerit wrote: post #18

After about 6 months hosting my own little private Mastodon instance, I can say the following things: (1) Whoever cares about that but the atmosphere is nice, cozy, exciting and creative. Zero toxicity and probably several magnitudes more meaningful conversations with people from all around the world. This apparently comes from the kinds of people I could find and connect with. (2) Hosting is relatively easy. I think…

" Zero toxicity and probably several magnitudes more meaningful conversations with people from all around the world. This apparently comes from the kinds of people I could find and connect with. " So long as you lean to progressive worldviews and see insult slinging at those that don't see your way not as being toxic, but rather just expressions of righteous indignation... sure, I could buy that line. A quick perusal…

> So long as you lean to progressive worldviews and see insult slinging at those that don't see your way not as being toxic, but rather just expressions of righteous indignation.

I'm not sure which mastodon server you are on, or which ones you're linked with, but I'm on Universeodon and I've frankly seen nothing of the sort.

You do have a point of course, but I haven't seen any sort of toxic behaviour. Toxic and hateful people simply get banned, and the servers that house them get blacklisted. Which isn't too dissimilar to how the world used to function before centralized social media made it harder to moderate which people you want to spend your time on.

I'm progressive of course, so it's easy for me. But the thing is, if you came up to me in the real world and started to talk about how wrong it is for people to be gay, then I'd frankly walk away from you. This is what becomes possible with decentralized social media, but I'm not sure I'd call it a bubble or safespace, it's simply going back to the world before Facebook and Twitter, to when it was much easier to ignore people.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by jokoon »

Who moderates this when content is reported?

Can mastodon detect porn automatically and hide it?

Anybody can build a social network today, the most difficult task is and always will be moderation.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by ilyt »

berkes wrote: post #112
_a9 wrote: post #80

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safe space = echo chamber

I taste a lot of spite in this comment. It's not entirely wrong: a space with peers is a safe space. It's how e.g. recovery of PTST for veterans or rape-victims work too, I'm told. It's also why clubs have a door-policy. In this case, safe space means both "only likeminded", i.e. gatekeeping - door policy, as tech, policy and features to protect: good privacy defaults, permissioned access, privacy features etc.

> In this case, safe space means both "only likeminded", i.e. gatekeeping - door policy, as tech, policy and features to protect: good privacy defaults, permissioned access, privacy features etc.

So in case of anything politic and not say hobby circle - an echo chamber

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by DoItToMe81 »

pohl wrote: post #36
sbuttgereit wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

" Zero toxicity and probably several magnitudes more meaningful conversations with people from all around the world. This apparently comes from the kinds of people I could find and connect with. " So long as you lean to progressive worldviews and see insult slinging at those that don't see your way not as being toxic, but rather just expressions of righteous indignation... sure, I could buy that line. A quick perusal…

You sampled one instance in a fediverse with thousands upon thousands of instances. Do you think none of them have a community more aligned with your worldview?

I have looked at about forty instances, most of them being for specific interests. EVERY single one, without fail, regardless of the subject, was flooded with American politics, over whatever it was actually intended for. I went to a music group and had to search through two weeks of American politics related posts to find a single post on music.

In the case of Pleroma, it was much the same, but with way more fringe lunatics and right wingers. I don't want to find a community "aligned with my worldview" that shuts out people unaligned with them, I want to find a community of mentally healthy adults, and that does not seem to exist in the larger Mastodon or Pleroma fediverse, unless your hobbies include pearl clutching about perceived racism or making infographics about white genocide.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by luckylion »

LudwigNagasena wrote: post #149
luckylion wrote: post #126

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> The big divide isn't over specific beliefs and policies as much as whether you believe the current system tends to favour you or not. I'm not sure about that. I know some conservatives (which I'd consider myself as well, though leaning libertarian) who are very well off but didn't start that way, and their political ideas remained constant. I know others who aren't particularly wealthy, but hold the same ideas. Fun…

UBI or basic welfare is supported by many right-winger opinion leaders, eg Friedman and Hayek.

I don't think Neoliberalism maps onto left/right that well, but is generally favored by people who believe in markets. It's not particularly conservative or right-wing though.
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