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Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by berkes »

haunter wrote: post #22
nforgerit wrote: post #18

After about 6 months hosting my own little private Mastodon instance, I can say the following things: (1) Whoever cares about that but the atmosphere is nice, cozy, exciting and creative. Zero toxicity and probably several magnitudes more meaningful conversations with people from all around the world. This apparently comes from the kinds of people I could find and connect with. (2) Hosting is relatively easy. I think…

> Zero toxicity ymmv. The mastodon.lol (which was a safe space instance) drama over Hogwarts Legacy [0] was a very good reminder that the platform doesn’t matter, its the people. 0, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34748195

I've been on the receiving end of a mob of angry (misguided?) fedizens too¹. It ain't pretty. Up to people showing up in private email with threats to show you they know who I am IRL.

While overall the Fediverse is a kind place, it's the people that make or break that. And people are fallible.

¹ I'm working on a longer blog-post, but need some distance first, else it's just a reconing/grudge- or sounds like one.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by berkes »

_a9 wrote: post #80
CyberDildonics wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

which was a safe space instance What does that mean?

safe space = echo chamber

I taste a lot of spite in this comment.

It's not entirely wrong: a space with peers is a safe space. It's how e.g. recovery of PTST for veterans or rape-victims work too, I'm told. It's also why clubs have a door-policy.

In this case, safe space means both "only likeminded", i.e. gatekeeping - door policy, as tech, policy and features to protect: good privacy defaults, permissioned access, privacy features etc.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by berkes »

lazzlazzlazz wrote: post #110

Individual Mastodon instances have already begun exhibiting insane behavior, and relying on someone else's fiefdom isn't for me. Social media should give full control to the user on top of a credibly neutral layer.

> Social media should give full control to the user

Are you implying this isn't possible with Mastodon/ActivityPub?

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by ihateyouall123 »

whywhywhydude wrote: post #48

I wish they changed the name to something better. Would probably increase adoption greatly if they can come up with a name that doesn’t sound like a porn site specializing in bondage.

This comment leads to so many questions that your therapist would love

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by emptysongglass »

wolverine876 wrote: post #97
emptysongglass wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who'd consider themselves progressive by the yardstick of 10 years ago but not measured to the new progressives of today, the most visible toxic-but-cozy-because-our-silo was that BIPOC people don't need to use content warning (CW) labels when site guidelines say use CW labels on political toots. The reason given was that white people must not be able to opt out of the BIPOC experience of political outrage…

What forum are you talking about. All of Mastadon? Doesn't each instance have its own rules? > As someone who'd consider themselves progressive by the yardstick of 10 years ago but not measured to the new progressives of today ... > The New Left has become unrecognizable to me That's an expected phenomenon. What was progressive yesterday becomes conservative today - think of women's rights, interracial marriage, etc.…

> What forum are you talking about. All of Mastadon? Doesn't each instance have its own rules?

It's one of the larger instances but the top heaviest constitute the majority by far and they all enshrine these policies.

I don't think you're really answering my criticism. You're lumping my "retrograde" progressiveness in with the well-worn wheel of timely revolts against the corruption of the past. I'm saying that both sides of the political aisle have become hives of extremism and that the left, particularly, has become the thing it once hated, an instrument of control in the service of the few.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by bronikowski »

lazzlazzlazz wrote: post #110

Individual Mastodon instances have already begun exhibiting insane behavior, and relying on someone else's fiefdom isn't for me. Social media should give full control to the user on top of a credibly neutral layer.

Agreed. That's why I run one-person instance of gotosocial. Works perfectly for me. I follow 30-40 people I know for many years, my client filters boosts (retweets) so I don't see outside noise. I hop on it, reply, maybe post something and then not think about it for many hours.

A perfect social network experience IMHO.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by DoctorOW »

sbuttgereit wrote: post #58
nforgerit wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do understand (and suffer from it from time to time, too) the reflex to put labels on bubbles. But in this case, I'm probably the wrong addressee since I'm regularly confronting myself with world views spanning over allover the political spectrum. I'm actively researching for data and arguments from other bubbles than mine and regularly learn something new through that. With toxicity I was referring to the ill-fate…

We're talking about the same toxicity. I do agree there is less shitposting, but there's a fair amount of it nonetheless. Many other of those activist posts are toned down here... because I expect their expectations are they are largely preaching to the choir. But just scrolling through the "toots" (again, at mastodon.social) on the main landing page I get...: " New Yorkers yelling at nazis is fun. Proud Boys bloodie…

For each of these I'm sure you can find a toot that loves Nazis, bad data, and child sex trafficking if that's really what you look for in a social media experience. I'm frankly not surprised those are less popular worldviews.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by roenxi »

Escapado wrote: post #108
wolverine876 wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What forum are you talking about. All of Mastadon? Doesn't each instance have its own rules? > As someone who'd consider themselves progressive by the yardstick of 10 years ago but not measured to the new progressives of today ... > The New Left has become unrecognizable to me That's an expected phenomenon. What was progressive yesterday becomes conservative today - think of women's rights, interracial marriage, etc.…

I would consider myself left leaning and still wish to see a lot of progress and change but I disagree with quite a few talking points of what might be considered the current “zeitgeist” of the far left. Would I consider misgendendering a _violent_ hate crime? No. Am I for more inclusion and free choice of gender identity? Yes. Do I think that pure socialism will save humanity? No. Do I think it’s bad we have people…

If you want to set yourself an interesting challenge, try to figure out why it is you think being on the right wing of politics is incompatible with those opinions. The right wing is large and has lots of factions, with the only thing uniting them being resistance to the left's attempts to reform the system.

The big divide isn't over specific beliefs and policies as much as whether you believe the current system tends to favour you or not.

Re: Mastodon hit 10M users

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Post by rakoo »

UberFly wrote: post #90
rakoo wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why does it matter how fast it is growing ?

I'm guessing you want people actually coming to the mall or all the businesses will leave.

For the n-th time: the Fediverse is _not_ a commercial product. It is a tool. A tool needs only be useful to its users and doesn't care about extracting the most revenue.

It is exactly this sick mindset of profit-making that made Facebook, Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, Instagram, ... what they are today: dopamine machines giving 10s doses to the users to feed the datasets and make profits. It does not serve the user. It is not a model to follow, but one to reject wholly and fully.

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