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Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

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Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

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Thanks for pointing this out. Our whole terms-of-service is just standard boilerplate provided by our lawyers, but this part doesn't really apply to Zed. Obviously, there's no "content moderation" for project code that you collaborate on with Zed. We'll look into adjusting this to make it clearer that we don't do anything remotely concerning or invasive.

Fair enough, but why not push back on the lawyers before pushing the publish button, and spare yourself from a possibly inauspicious start?

Because most reasonable people don't cavil about self-evident boilerplate.

Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

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It looks interesting but, given how Atom was abruptly taken out the back and put out of its misery, are many devs are going to invest the time in going all in on Zed? EDIT: Just had a look inside the app bundle to see if they were using Electron again. Looks like this is built round WebRTC instead. EDIT2: Actually the actual 'zed' binary is just under 284MB, so maybe Zed's not built round the WebRTC framework, but ju…

Atom's death was not so abrupt. It had a slow, lingering demise.

Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

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No clue, I'm not affiliated with the devs in any way, I've just been very excited about it since one of the devs tweeted this: https://twitter.com/nathansobo/status/1498053586059620354 However, my first impressions of the keyboard navigation aren't great :(

What forms of keyboard navigation are you missing? We try to make sure everything is controllable from the keyboard.

The first thing I always do when I go into any new editor is set up the "Select All Instances of highlighted word". So like how there is cmd-d for the next occurrence, I also like having a shortcut to select _all_ occurrences. Would love for this to be added.

More generally, this looks really awesome and also really enjoyed your team's blog post detailing the GPUI implementation (even though large parts of it went over my head)

Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

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I felt burned by the loss of Atom. Why is this project going to be different?

I'm so angry about Atom, I haven't been able to move on. I'm using Pulsar out of spite. I'd like to move to emacs (for all its faults, it will never do what Atom did) but I can't be arsed to learn to configure it so it works exactly the way I want it to. I don't have the energy to learn an entirely new tool, I don't know what to do.

I'm so angry about Atom, I haven't been able to move on.

You'll not even remember Atom when you get to college.

Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

#116
Pretty nice. Gave it a whirl and a few thoughts:

1. Very performant. Opened a large(ish) rust project and the auto-completion and goto symbol were both very snappy. Scrolling is very smooth and haven't noticed any hiccups or pauses so far. 2. Doesn't seem like there is a way to disable font ligatures? I find them really annoying and wish I could disable. 3. Stuck with the built-in themes, none of which I particularly like.

Overall seems very promising, will keep an eye on it.

Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

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I'm so angry about Atom, I haven't been able to move on. I'm using Pulsar out of spite. I'd like to move to emacs (for all its faults, it will never do what Atom did) but I can't be arsed to learn to configure it so it works exactly the way I want it to. I don't have the energy to learn an entirely new tool, I don't know what to do.

I'm trying to learn emacs too - last night I kept ChatGPT open and asked it any questions I had ("what's the hotkey to open up a new window below the current one") and I'm getting better really quickly.

You all should check out the community Atom fork or Pulsar Editor (from some of the OG Atom dev team)

https://pulsar-edit.dev/ https://github.com/atom-community/atom/

Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

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Closed-source editor built on a closed-source framework, telemetry built-in with no documented opt-out, hardcoded language servers, macOS only.

I'm working on an code editor with a similar philosophy (or at least I'm trying to achieve similar goals) but it's completely open-source (MIT licence). It's called ecode and can be found here: https://github.com/SpartanJ/ecode . It's also GPU accelerated, native code (no electron), has LSP integration and has many similar feature set.

I'm looking for collaborators, if someone is interested please message me.

Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

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No macOS is a horrible developer platform in general. The only thing that makes it remotely viable is the tireless efforts of the Homebrew project. I can't imagine thinking macOS is a good programmer OS

Don't forget the first-party container runtime. Even Windows has one (or, er, three?). I am mostly responsible for maintaining our local development stack scripts, and Colima (to be clear, a heroic project) and MacOS are a continuous source of problems (full time problems when M1 first launched, down to at least 2-3 issues a month). I was helping a coworker with getting scripts working on Windows/WSL and how much eff…

For lack of a better term, I've been a full-stack programmer for 27 years. I ran Linux on the desktop for 19 years. I've run MacOS for about 8 now. And, always, Windows, of course, because companies. I've developed extensively for PHP, VB, C, ASP, VB.NET, C#, some Python, a tiny bit of Java, and (my fave) Ruby on Rails. My main projects of the last 10 years use a large C# program which I compile to run on Mac, Linux, and Windows. So, I've been around the block. A couple times. I'm typing this from a Mac. When I've wanted a "container," I've used a real VM. I just installed Docker desktop last week for some new work in machine learning. YMMV. TACMA.

Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

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It's weird to show screenshot of an editor with white background, most programmers use dark themes right?

I don't know, but light text on dark backgrounds is more difficult for the eye to read. It takes more effort to discern the characters, thus causing more eye strain.

(If your editor seems too bright to look at, I might suggest reducing your monitor's brightness.)

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