Not open and only for macOS? No thank you.
Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta
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Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta
#62Hell of a license: ---- INVESTIGATIONS, MONITORING, & NO OBLIGATION TO PRE-SCREEN CONTENT. Zed may, but is not obligated to, investigate, monitor, pre-screen, remove, refuse, or review the Service and/or Content, including Your Content and User Content, at any time. By entering into the Agreement, you hereby provide your irrevocable consent to such monitoring. You acknowledge and agree that you have no expectation of…
Thanks for saving me time.
Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta
#63Hell of a license: ---- INVESTIGATIONS, MONITORING, & NO OBLIGATION TO PRE-SCREEN CONTENT. Zed may, but is not obligated to, investigate, monitor, pre-screen, remove, refuse, or review the Service and/or Content, including Your Content and User Content, at any time. By entering into the Agreement, you hereby provide your irrevocable consent to such monitoring. You acknowledge and agree that you have no expectation of…
Privacy issues aside, this makes it unusable in a professional setting. Maybe this is a feature for monetization?
Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta
#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
No clue, I'm not affiliated with the devs in any way, I've just been very excited about it since one of the devs tweeted this: https://twitter.com/nathansobo/status/1498053586059620354 However, my first impressions of the keyboard navigation aren't great :(
What forms of keyboard navigation are you missing? We try to make sure everything is controllable from the keyboard.
I haven't played enough with it to give good feedback, I've edited my comment to be more fair.
* Seems to me that a lot of the keyboard shortcuts are chords or require hitting an arrow key, sometimes even both. Example: VS Code's default mapping for vertical split is cmd+backslash, but Zed requires cmd+k -> arrow key.
* The project panel (file tree) doesn't support hjkl for navigation. The website says Vim mode is still under construction, but in my mind that applies to actual buffer editing, not general UI interactions. My impression is that today most editors, hell even a lot of websites, support hjkl or similar for navigation in cases where it doesn't conflict with anything else.
My perspective is that "keyboard-focused" implies "ergonomic shortcuts and UI navigation without leaving the home row". If I'm gonna move my hand from the home row to reach the arrow keys, I might as well just reach for the mouse and get 10x the possible interactions. Anecdotally, I tested myself just now and I'm pretty sure it takes me more time to "find my footing" when I move my fingers to the arrow keys than it does to just grab a mouse and click something.
This might be wrong expectations on my end, but my hope is that Zed can bring the powerful navigation of Doom Emacs/Spacemacs minus the bugginess and terrible performance of Emacs. Whenever the devs talked about Zed, I just imagined VSpaceCode without the jank that comes when you override 90% of an editor's default bindings. What I'm seeing from an hour of usage doesn't feel that much more powerful than VS Code in terms of keyboard navigation (kudos on the snappy performance though, it really is night and day). I'm aware this is an early beta, I just hope you folks agree and are going to push more in this direction.
Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta
#65It's weird to show screenshot of an editor with white background, most programmers use dark themes right?
Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta
#66I like the remote code editing feature. I would love a solution that lets me write code on my iPad, including running the code locally. If I could run a server at home and connect to it it would be great. Is there anything like that?
Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta
#67When I clicked I had the vague sense that I had seen "code at the speed of thought" elsewhere, and a quick google showed that it's a pretty common thing for people to claim, especially about editors or related features. Maybe not the best choice of motto.
There's a popular book on vim titled "Practical Vim: Edit Text at the Speed of Thought."
Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta
#68Closed-source editor built on a closed-source framework, telemetry built-in with no documented opt-out, hardcoded language servers, macOS only.
Telemetry built-in with documented never-opt-out, actually.
Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta
#69It's weird to show screenshot of an editor with white background, most programmers use dark themes right?
I don't.
Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta
#70Hell of a license: ---- INVESTIGATIONS, MONITORING, & NO OBLIGATION TO PRE-SCREEN CONTENT. Zed may, but is not obligated to, investigate, monitor, pre-screen, remove, refuse, or review the Service and/or Content, including Your Content and User Content, at any time. By entering into the Agreement, you hereby provide your irrevocable consent to such monitoring. You acknowledge and agree that you have no expectation of…
That sounds unconscionable, wonder if it would hold up in court (my guess is not).