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Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

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Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

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Post by nicoburns »

dheera wrote: post #15

I'm really looking for a lighter-weight GUI editor. Too many random shortcut keys to memorize in Atom, and VS code is getting wayyyy to bloated. It always has an annoying welcome message at startup, annoying notifications about things I could install, and way too much text in the UI. I don't like settings and other dialogs being tabs alongside code, even though I know it hip to do that nowadays. I search for 'ssh plu…

Sublime Text is by the most mature product in this category.

Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

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Post by maxbrunsfeld »

ibejoeb wrote: post #45

Hell of a license: ---- INVESTIGATIONS, MONITORING, & NO OBLIGATION TO PRE-SCREEN CONTENT. Zed may, but is not obligated to, investigate, monitor, pre-screen, remove, refuse, or review the Service and/or Content, including Your Content and User Content, at any time. By entering into the Agreement, you hereby provide your irrevocable consent to such monitoring. You acknowledge and agree that you have no expectation of…

Thanks for pointing this out. Our whole terms-of-service is just standard boilerplate provided by our lawyers, but this part doesn't really apply to Zed. Obviously, there's no "content moderation" for project code that you collaborate on with Zed.

We'll look into adjusting this to make it clearer that we don't do anything remotely concerning or invasive.

Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

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Post by vlunkr »

dheera wrote: post #15

I'm really looking for a lighter-weight GUI editor. Too many random shortcut keys to memorize in Atom, and VS code is getting wayyyy to bloated. It always has an annoying welcome message at startup, annoying notifications about things I could install, and way too much text in the UI. I don't like settings and other dialogs being tabs alongside code, even though I know it hip to do that nowadays. I search for 'ssh plu…

> and also too annoying to deal with if I want to keep multiple projects' repos open at the same time.

This was a big annoyance for me when I tried vscode. Maybe it's atypical, but I'm typically accessing 3-5 different repos every day. Having to open a window instead of just quickly doing a cd and opening vim gets old fast.

Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

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Post by TremendousJudge »

TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #51
sjm wrote: post #17

No mention of extensibility is a big red flag, and if it isn't open-source it presents the same risk as anyone adopting Atom originally ended up getting burned by.

I felt burned by the loss of Atom. Why is this project going to be different?

I'm so angry about Atom, I haven't been able to move on. I'm using Pulsar out of spite. I'd like to move to emacs (for all its faults, it will never do what Atom did) but I can't be arsed to learn to configure it so it works exactly the way I want it to. I don't have the energy to learn an entirely new tool, I don't know what to do.

Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

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Post by willio58 »

Looks interesting, especially around their "multiplayer" editing. I wish them success, we need more serious competition in this space. VSCode is so damn good I probably won't switch, but if this came to parity with some features in VSCode (especially the plugins I use) I could see myself making the jump.

Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

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Post by maxbrunsfeld »

starkparker wrote: post #46

Closed-source editor built on a closed-source framework, telemetry built-in with no documented opt-out, hardcoded language servers, macOS only.

The moment that you open Zed for the first time, you see a welcome screen that offers telemetry opt-out.

The editor will be open-source and cross-platform, but it takes time to build things.

Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

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Post by mock-possum »

starkparker wrote: post #46

Closed-source editor built on a closed-source framework, telemetry built-in with no documented opt-out, hardcoded language servers, macOS only.

Wow really not what I would have expected - I feel like associating this with Atom is pretty misleading, given all that.

Re: Zed, the new code editor from Atom developers, has entered open beta

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Post by eddieroger »

DennisAleynikov wrote: post #21
TheRealDunkirk wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only if you're trying to build for Windows.

No macOS is a horrible developer platform in general. The only thing that makes it remotely viable is the tireless efforts of the Homebrew project. I can't imagine thinking macOS is a good programmer OS

I can't imagine not. Productivity on Windows is atrocious - I can't even launch an app without seeing an ad. And what is this Cortana and why does she want to help me so much?

It works all ways. Let people like what they like. No one is forcing you to do anything on a Mac.

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