Coming soon: I'm sorry, Dave. I can't answer that while your ad-blocker is enabled.
I also can't answer that question while your default search engine is not Bing and your default browser is not Edge.
Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI
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#432Wasn't Google accused of stealing traffic from web sites by show the results in Google instead of only linking to the pages.
This is worse. So I think MS will get sued, a lot.
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#433Earlier quoted context omitted.
> they didn't really do anything with it at all because they didn't have to. They didn't do anything with it because chatbots are unequivocally a worse business model than the current search paradigm. They cost exponentially more to run and are much harder to organically advertise with without scaring away users by making the chat responses themselves ads. If the future of search is chatbots Google is facing existent…
It reminds me of the Tiktok vs Youtube comparison. Ad revenue was way higher on long format content, but the success of Tiktok means that Youtube now has to pay more to creators, even if their margins are lower. AI as search is lower margin but Google will need to implement it just to stay relevant.
Tiktok succeeded because it offered something that the public wanted. I don't know that a chat bot is something that the public wants. I know I have no use for it.
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#434Earlier quoted context omitted.
they'd have to get ChatGPT to stop spewing up made up bullshit and fake academic citations first, which I think is a bit of a bigger problem than many seem to be considering. the outcome will still be hilarious though, so it's win win for the onlookers I guess edit: all the responses here who think the garbage is "just fine, at least it's not SEO" are similarly hilarious. as though SEO would not be polluting the AI a…
> they'd have to get ChatGPT to stop spewing up made up bullshit and fake academic citations firs Why? The alternative is reading your way through SEO spam (and soon: reading yourself through ChatGPT-generated SEO spam), which is often just as wrong. Source: am working for SEOs.
Yes - I’m more hopeful of LLMs (or whatever replaces them over time) getting more truthful and accurate sooner than we get rid of SEO spam. I would also imagine SEO spam gets worse soon with LLMs.
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#435I wonder if the ads given by this will be unblockable.
Just wait until ads are in-lined with the responses and sponsors products are prioritized if you're not specific about what you want.
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#436Earlier quoted context omitted.
Consequently, this is probably the beginning of a very abrupt end for traditional search.
It's going to eat up a lot of Wikipedia, StackOverflow, Quora, etc. traffic but it doesn't change the reality that often you need a real link to somewhere else on the Internet. And all of that is still going through Google or Bing.
If it works like the other GPT search engines that have popped up, it does provide links.
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#437Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yep. If Microsoft somehow overtakes Google from the back with Bing and ChatGPT, it'll be the tech coup of the century. And it's so fascinating how Google's position as an AI think tank put them at a tremendous disadvantage. They didn't cut a deal with OpenAI because why should they? After all, they originated much of the research that led to GPT3. But then they didn't really do anything with it at all because they di…
Might become the largest case of the innovator's dilemma ever.
It sounds more like Counter-Positioning (details, e.g. [1]) by OpenAI/Microsoft. Google cannot compete or it would attack its own main income stream and risk losing income very fast. But if they wait, then people learn to work with Microsoft/OpenAI which would hurt them in the long run. Counter-Positioning creates an impossible situation which brought many giants down including Blockbuster.
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#438I wonder if the ads given by this will be unblockable.
Just wait until ads are in-lined with the responses and sponsors products are prioritized if you're not specific about what you want.
That already seems to be happening:
https://www.bing.com/search?q=I%20am%20planning%20a%20trip%2...
HN is not a hivemind, but it seems interesting that people are excited about this. Not only will you get unblockable ads, but you content creators also get nothing, lol.
Exciting if you invest in big tech, I guess.
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#439Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's an end to keyword search. Search now has state. I can search something, and then manipulate the results. Filter the results. I dont have to start over with a new query, or mess with quotes and -signs, which has been utterly terrible ever since google started taking things like that as suggestions. Or when I search for 4-5 words, and it instantly chooses to leave out the most important of the 5 terms so it can re…
> It's an end to keyword search I really hope not. I want keyword searching. I hope that it can continue to exist alongside this.
Most people ask human-style questions, eg: "How do I turn my toaster on?"; unlike tech enthusiasts who might be more inclined to feed mechanical queries, eg: "toaster turn on -site:reddit.com".
If the former query becomes more useful, even at the cost of the latter (which has gotten fairly useless already anyway), that is an overall boon for end-users.
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#440I tried (regular) bing after this announcement, and I'm kind of surprised at some of it's flaws. 1. Visited and unvisited links look the same???? (Instead of blue vs purple). Literally a deal breaker in my case 2. No dark mode in 2023???
They need it running first so they can ask it for the code to implement dark mode.