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Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by JohnFen »

basch wrote: post #215
lb4r wrote: post #134

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Consequently, this is probably the beginning of a very abrupt end for traditional search.

It's an end to keyword search. Search now has state. I can search something, and then manipulate the results. Filter the results. I dont have to start over with a new query, or mess with quotes and -signs, which has been utterly terrible ever since google started taking things like that as suggestions. Or when I search for 4-5 words, and it instantly chooses to leave out the most important of the 5 terms so it can re…

> It's an end to keyword search

I really hope not. I want keyword searching. I hope that it can continue to exist alongside this.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by revskill »

MonkeyMalarky wrote: post #140
unshavedyak wrote: post #104

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Yea i've never thought of using Bing. In fact i generally hate my Windows experience and vastly prefer Linux. Yet when this goes live i'll be there, trying it out, seeing how ChatGPT can integrate into my searches, answer questions, etc. After all most Searches i execute are either direct questions or questions by proxy. I want to understand a specific function signature. I want to see the inputs, etc. This has been…

The best experience I've had so far is sort of asking for what I should be searching for. For example, starting a project in a new and unfamiliar domain. I tried searching for what I wanted and kept getting drowned in similar but unrelated responses. I explained what my problem was to ChatGPT and asked what the industry names and terms were. Using the response, my searches were instantly relevant.

It's even more helpful to configure webpack config.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by inasio »

revskill wrote: post #232
paulpan wrote: post #218

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Not if Microsoft kills itself in the process? At best it's a Pyrrhic victory as both companies sink enormous infra costs to outdo one another. Worst case could be like Nokia acquisition debacle a decade ago when Microsoft desperately tried to re-break into mobile and failed. There was a HN thread on this a while ago where consensus was serving cost ~$0.03-0.05 PER query, which is absolutely huge. Adds more credence t…

It's hard for Google now i think. It has really bad reputation on many things, which are hard to re-earn. I myself no longer use Google search, and less Gmail (mostly for throwaway content). Google gonna have a hard time to earn reputation in their services. They lost the "trust" war.

This is exactly John Bull's trust thermocline [0]

[0] https://nitter.lacontrevoie.fr/garius/status/158811531012453...

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by axus »

Fatnino wrote: post #280
partiallypro wrote: post #250

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IMO, the integration with Edge is far more important. Then you are taking it with you anywhere and eventually I'm sure you can just have it interact with a page you're on. Google losing Chrome users in a measurable way would be massive. One challenge though is how this will work on mobile devices where Google will have a much more entrenched advantage.

Are people using Edge? I don't use windows much anymore so I wouldn't know. But yesterday my dad asked for help logging into TurboTax. He had the login page open in Edge and ui elements were just not responding to clicks. I didn't spend any time trying to debug that and simply opened the page in Firefox where it worked perfectly.

Now that it's "Chrome-powered", I use Edge occasionally. On computers where I'm using a Microsoft account, which I mostly use for the parental control features.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by jug »

ycta20221203980 wrote: post #62
partiallypro wrote: post #40

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Edge is genuinely very very good. It does have some dev tool problems that I've run into, but for browser it's top notch.

I like Edge and I want to like Bing but my problem is that the new tab page on Edge and the landing page on (current) Bing are so bad. They're full of random junk and articles I don't want to see. I'll switch to Bing full time if they just make the landing page clean.

Check out the Bing start page settings. You can disable the articles, and more. I basically have the text box and weather in the top left corner. I even disabled the daily wallpaper.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by hiddencost »

epups wrote: post #80

This is a potentially momentous occasion here. Microsoft is betting hard that they can mount a challenge to Google, and I think ChatGPT can credibly attempt that. The answer from Google so far is weak. The thought that Bing may actually overtake Google would be hilarious a few months ago, and now it looks... possible?

Honestly, hearing that the MS announce is to serve a small number of hand curated answers makes me think MS is further behind than I thought. I'll be curious to see what Google announces tomorrow.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by raincole »

pphysch wrote: post #147
lb4r wrote: post #134

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Consequently, this is probably the beginning of a very abrupt end for traditional search.

It's going to eat up a lot of Wikipedia, StackOverflow, Quora, etc. traffic but it doesn't change the reality that often you need a real link to somewhere else on the Internet. And all of that is still going through Google or Bing.

I mean yes, but what stopped ChatGPT2 from doing this for you?

"As a language model, I don't have the knowledge to answer your question 'who won 2024 world cup?'. These are the search result from Bing engine: ..."

Then you never need to actually access google.com or bing.com.

Re: Microsoft announces new Bing and Edge browser powered by upgraded ChatGPT AI

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Post by Bootvis »

Fatnino wrote: post #280
partiallypro wrote: post #250

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IMO, the integration with Edge is far more important. Then you are taking it with you anywhere and eventually I'm sure you can just have it interact with a page you're on. Google losing Chrome users in a measurable way would be massive. One challenge though is how this will work on mobile devices where Google will have a much more entrenched advantage.

Are people using Edge? I don't use windows much anymore so I wouldn't know. But yesterday my dad asked for help logging into TurboTax. He had the login page open in Edge and ui elements were just not responding to clicks. I didn't spend any time trying to debug that and simply opened the page in Firefox where it worked perfectly.

I use Edge on my work laptop and it’s fine. It has a vertical tabbar and some ad blocking built in which is nice. I still prefer Firefox but unfortunately I can’t on that thing.
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