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Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by autoexec »

chrischen wrote: post #299
autoexec wrote: post #291

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> There are certain things Apple does that are user hostile like pushing people to buy cloud storage by neglecting their local backup and local syncing user experiences, but planned obsolescence is definitely not one of them. They've had their issues there too with irreplaceable batteries (remember this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idVmnvcQnLg ), slowing people's older devices to encourage them to buy new ones (I…

It's not a helpful sounding excuse. The media blew up that narrative because people felt their phone become slower over time for various reasons, but the reasons your phone would slow down would be a combination of several other factors: 1) Device might get slower due to having more stuff on it (larger indexes, less space, etc) 2) Battery degradation causing throttling of CPU 3) New OS requiring more computing power…

> Saying Apple intentionally slowed down older devices is disingenuous.

They admitted to exactly that. They were fined millions in euros for it, and paid over half a billion dollars in fines and settlements in the US alone. Apple clearly wasn't confident their justifications would hold in courts, just as they didn't convince regulators overseas.

I'll agree that if they had been honest with users about what they were doing this wouldn't have been an issue at all, but they kept it a secret and even if it genuinely wasn't the original or entire purpose for slowing the devices the people working at apple were smart enough to have realized that slowing the devices would incentivize more users to upgrade and that not disclosing the truth would prevent users from solving the problem themselves by replacing the battery and removing that same incentive.

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Post by Awmusic12635 »

fbdab103 wrote: post #179

Related - is there a way I can download pictures from an Iphone to a Linux computer locally? Not interested in using any form of cloud intermediary. Evidently, if I plug a cable from an Iphone into a computer, enter my password, this still represents a threat if it is not overseen by iTunes. The device is in my hand, connected to the intended destination, and it is non-trivial to retrieve my data. Just absurd behavio…

Checkout https://www.photosync-app.com/home.html . Works great in my experience for this.

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Post by jcul »

hugelgupf wrote: post #139
jelly wrote: post #108

I think the current title is mistaken, the twitter user isn't claiming he can't use the Apple TV, he's just saying the message appears. I encountered the same message when iOS 16 had just released and wasn't available on my iPad yet. It wasn't a blocking message, pressing "OK" was enough to make it go away, and when iPadOS 16 finally came out I was able to clear it. It's bad UX but the Apple TV can still be used as b…

[twitter OP] This is true. Appears once a day or so, you hit OK. Sometimes during a show you're watching, sometimes while it starts up. Don't know if it becomes blocking some day...

Had something similar while setting up apple TV on a non-apple device for my parents, also had no apple devices.

Turns out, in my case at least, the warning was a little misleading.

It required me to log into their apple / icloud account and accept some terms, I did this with a normal browser (again non-apple) and the warning went away.

May be different in your case as I was setting up a new account for them.

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Post by JohnBooty »

throwaway290 wrote: post #278
JohnBooty wrote: post #170

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The overwhelming majority of users have been voting with their dollars: they want bigger and bigger smartphone screens. Look at what people do on their phones all day. Most of that makes no sense on a watch screen.

This is funny. I am yet to meet a single person with a max-size iPhone, and I met plenty iphone users in the past 4 years. People with little money can't justify the upgrade, people with money don't need to play silly games or watch TV shows on the go when they have iPads, iMacs and comfort of their home/car/private office. So I don't think screen size matters. But using watch for everything is not about screen size.…

    I am yet to meet a single person with a max-size iPhone
Well, I agree there. It seems like they are mostly owned by people who carry purses because they are too big for pockets. But it is also true that you almost never see people with smaller SE iPhones or mini Android phones.

The overwhelming preference is not "the biggest screen possible" but is clearly "the biggest screen you can reasonably fit into a pants pocket."

    Like yoga and meditation and other self-care this is 
    only on an upwards trend
That's a funny observation. What it really highlights to me is how personal peoples' preferences are here.

To me a smartwatch is way more intrusive than a smartphone. It's something that's always on my wrist, always on my body. Versus a smartphone which I can mute and leave in my pocket where it doesn't really tempt me.

But, I must stress, I realize this is personal and others might find the opposite to be true. Above all else I am glad that folks are considering what's best for their mental health.

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Post by pwgentleman »

markmark wrote: post #263
tpmoney wrote: post #251

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It literally is though. The link "Learn more about Parental Controls" takes you here https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201304 which walks you through doing all the setup.

That walks me through doing things on an iPhone I don't own, what am I missing? The familylink.google.com page lets me manage my kids' devices directly on that webpage, which is the feature I would like Apple to have. People have said you can manage it on the kids' device directly by logging in with your AppleId, but that doesn't help me if my kid is out and messages me asking me to allow an app or give her an extra…

Well I have another iPhone and it's not much better, it's frequent that app install requests will get lost for hours. And there's no obvious way to go look for pending notifications, you need to wait for it to show up again.

Parenting controls still have a long way to go on Apple devices, but still it's miles ahead of other stuff (looking at you Netflix/Disney Plus).

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Post by davidmurdoch »

koyote wrote: post #288
davidmurdoch wrote: post #258

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The launcher itself is 80% an advertisement for shows and movies.

Don't other launchers have "featured/things you want might want to watch" sections? What should be shown instead?

Just a grid of apps I choose. Bonus points if I can choose the background.

Definitely not ads for horror movies in a household with young kids.

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Post by scarface74 »

cameronh90 wrote: post #255
rgovostes wrote: post #207

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This is almost certainly the correct answer. It might also be a generic dialog populated with a server-provided message. Apple TV definitely is not intended to require that you own another Apple device. Even the Apple TV+ subscription service is supported on other platforms like Roku ( https://www.roku.com/blog/apple-tv ). Apple has never required that you run the latest iOS to use iCloud (see minimum requirements on…

I have the Apple TV app on my Google TV, and certain actions require me to use my iPad, such as buying films. I guess they didn't want to give Google a cut of their revenue but also couldn't be bothered making a web interface.

You can buy films from a Windows computer using an iTunes

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Post by smileybarry »

acodesmith wrote: post #112

Log in to your Apple account in a browser and accepts the terms. Log out of the tv and log back in. Same thing happened to me. The original poster is mistaken.

It didn’t work for me, logging into iCloud on the web didn’t bring up the EULA, even if I opened iCloud Mail.

I have a second Apple ID and had to take an iPad and sign out (1st), sign in (2nd), accept, sign out (2nd), sign back in (1st).

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Post by scarface74 »

gtvwill wrote: post #125
jtbayly wrote: post #41

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Or not let your child use an Apple device . That's actually your choice if it's your choice whether/which apps they can install.

Bit hard when its the dad thats non-existant in the kids life buying them a iphone @ 12. Restrict the usage of that and see how well your relationship with your kid holds up. Had this happen to us, my partners kids. Its a subtle attempt to destabilize and subvert her authority as parent figure even though old mate isn't even around, hasn't been for years and still is an abusive S*t. We got forced to buy a iphone in o…

Yes I’m sure that Apple has meetings and talks about how to enable abusive parents. If she has custody, she can just say no to her kid.

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Post by scarface74 »

polalavik wrote: post #131

Also Apple TV (the software/app) will not let you cast to a smart tv/ Google chrome/ Roku etc. you have to workaround it by casting it from the browser version and casting through chrome.

Or you could just install the AppleTV app on your Roku.
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