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Post by tpmoney »

markmark wrote: post #159
heresaPizza wrote: post #114

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Actually there are many ways to set parental controls on device and lock them with a passcode or you could use third party solution that use the Screen Time API but are compatible with Android.

It's so annoying that this isn't just a page on family.apple.com or whatever like Google does with familylink.google.com.

It literally is though. The link "Learn more about Parental Controls" takes you here https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201304 which walks you through doing all the setup.

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Post by kps »

fbdab103 wrote: post #179

Related - is there a way I can download pictures from an Iphone to a Linux computer locally? Not interested in using any form of cloud intermediary. Evidently, if I plug a cable from an Iphone into a computer, enter my password, this still represents a threat if it is not overseen by iTunes. The device is in my hand, connected to the intended destination, and it is non-trivial to retrieve my data. Just absurd behavio…

For photos, don't mount it as mass storage, use PTP.

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Post by ipqk »

assttoasstmgr wrote: post #248
rgovostes wrote: post #207

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This is almost certainly the correct answer. It might also be a generic dialog populated with a server-provided message. Apple TV definitely is not intended to require that you own another Apple device. Even the Apple TV+ subscription service is supported on other platforms like Roku ( https://www.roku.com/blog/apple-tv ). Apple has never required that you run the latest iOS to use iCloud (see minimum requirements on…

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> aggressive planned obsolescence

What?! Apple devices have the longest usable lifespans out there (and best resell value to boot, which is also indicative of their lifespan).

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by chrischen »

assttoasstmgr wrote: post #248
rgovostes wrote: post #207

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This is almost certainly the correct answer. It might also be a generic dialog populated with a server-provided message. Apple TV definitely is not intended to require that you own another Apple device. Even the Apple TV+ subscription service is supported on other platforms like Roku ( https://www.roku.com/blog/apple-tv ). Apple has never required that you run the latest iOS to use iCloud (see minimum requirements on…

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There are certain things Apple does that are user hostile like pushing people to buy cloud storage by neglecting their local backup and local syncing user experiences, but planned obsolescence is definitely not one of them. If you are accusing that person of being biased for Apple then ai am here to tell you that you are definitely being biased again.

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Post by cameronh90 »

rgovostes wrote: post #207
kitsunesoba wrote: post #78

To me this feels like a shortcut taken by the tvOS team more than a push for the user to own more Apple devices. What I'm guessing has happened is that that there's probably no standardized dialog in the tvOS SDK that is suited to a scrolling ToS/EULA screen and in the interest of pushing a release out the door faster an engineer was told to shove this message in an alert and call it a day. It's bad and should be fix…

This is almost certainly the correct answer. It might also be a generic dialog populated with a server-provided message. Apple TV definitely is not intended to require that you own another Apple device. Even the Apple TV+ subscription service is supported on other platforms like Roku ( https://www.roku.com/blog/apple-tv ). Apple has never required that you run the latest iOS to use iCloud (see minimum requirements on…

I have the Apple TV app on my Google TV, and certain actions require me to use my iPad, such as buying films. I guess they didn't want to give Google a cut of their revenue but also couldn't be bothered making a web interface.

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Post by LarryMullins »

coldtea wrote: post #249
LarryMullins wrote: post #228

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I don't think we're that small of a minority. Quite a few people don't actively use any social media, and taking memento photos is an unusual activity for many people, done mostly when going on rare vacations if at all. That leaves purely utilitarian photo taking, like uploading checks or taking a picture to help you remember where you parked your car.

Those people perhaps don't buy fancy smartphones though, but more like "purely utilitarian" ones? Whereas this subthread is about the possibility of the Apple Watch replacing the smartphone for iPhone users...

No, a lot of people like I describe buy iphones simply because they're fashionable. If fashions change, they could be well served by a smart watch instead.

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Post by rgovostes »

assttoasstmgr wrote: post #248
rgovostes wrote: post #207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is almost certainly the correct answer. It might also be a generic dialog populated with a server-provided message. Apple TV definitely is not intended to require that you own another Apple device. Even the Apple TV+ subscription service is supported on other platforms like Roku ( https://www.roku.com/blog/apple-tv ). Apple has never required that you run the latest iOS to use iCloud (see minimum requirements on…

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You may find other things Apple does user hostile, but they are genuinely pretty good about supporting old devices. I'm pretty sure you can even still sync original iPods on Macs released 20 years later.

The iCloud compatibility page linked above shows that it still supports devices released 13 years ago. The latest iOS is compatible with devices from 2017, and regular security updates are released for devices going back to 2015 -- that's about half the time iPhone has been on the market.

Especially if you believe that they exhibit "declining quality of software", this is a more rational explanation for the error message than a sudden, massive shift in update strategy to require everyone be running the latest software release.

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Post by davidmurdoch »

koyote wrote: post #250
davidmurdoch wrote: post #60

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Google TV is filled to the brim with ads.

Is that a US thing? My Google TV has no ads as far as I can see. And on the plus side, it allows you to install YouTube clients that blocks ads :)

The launcher itself is 80% an advertisement for shows and movies.

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Post by edgyquant »

dustbitying wrote: post #165
V__ wrote: post #111

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I gifted an Apple Watch this Christmas. I checked their site and saw that an iPhone was needed, but somehow thought any up-to-date iOS device would work. Since you can set up the watch for a family member (who doesn't have an iPhone) it has to work, right? Got the newest iPad? F*k you, buy and iPhone. That was a disappointing gift, I can tell you that. There is absolutely no reason to impose such a limit. I don't und…

> There is absolutely no reason to impose such a limit. regardless, I'm pretty sure that somewhere within Apple, they think it makes them more money this way, for the immediate term at least.

I don’t think so. What it does is ensure they can keep compatible operating systems so that the experience is one they totally control for.

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Post by edgyquant »

heresaPizza wrote: post #102
robbomacrae wrote: post #46

Having worked at Apple I feel like this is a mortal risk they are taking. The Apple Watch could be the next big thing that replaces the smartphone, except they require an iPhone to use it. So instead of taking a short term hit and moving with the times they greedily hold on to their money maker and risk a competitor bringing out a standalone version and tanking the entire thing. Likewise the Apple TV is a great produ…

Being an iPhone + Watch + AirPods user I can say the exact opposite. The Watch is the perfect iPhone companion but it can’t replace it. Its screen is so small it makes me want to complete interactions as quick as possible. I love leaving the iPhone at home when I go for a walk and still listening music and podcasts, but it’s something that requires minimal interactions. Receiving notifications is great, but replying?…

This is exactly how I feel. I wouldn’t want the watch if it were for my iPhone as it basically just adds a screen for it on my wrist
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