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Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by jtbayly » Mon, Jan 16, 2023, 10:30 PM UTC

mklepaczewski wrote: post #35

Last time I checked a parent needed their own Apple device to set up app limits, downtime, accept/reject app installation requests on child's device. Thanks Apple. Now I have an option to give my kid unrestricted access to their device and to the whole Internet, or buy another IPhone just because my child uses Apple product.

Or not let your child use an Apple device .

That's actually your choice if it's your choice whether/which apps they can install.

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Jan 16, 2023, 10:32 PM UTC

makeitdouble wrote: post #31

It's interesting how the responses basically split into two camps: - the "just buy an iPhone" and "you've brought it on you, what did you expect" camp - the "Apple fix this" camp At the point I'm reading this, the first camp represents the vast majority of the responses. That's interesting regarding Apple's ongoing lawsuits and regulaory pressure. For most people Apple domination and dictating the rules is basically…

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Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by Joeri » Mon, Jan 16, 2023, 10:32 PM UTC

makeitdouble wrote: post #31

It's interesting how the responses basically split into two camps: - the "just buy an iPhone" and "you've brought it on you, what did you expect" camp - the "Apple fix this" camp At the point I'm reading this, the first camp represents the vast majority of the responses. That's interesting regarding Apple's ongoing lawsuits and regulaory pressure. For most people Apple domination and dictating the rules is basically…

To be fair, owning an apple tv and only an apple tv is not a scenario that I would expect, so I’m not surprised apple’s engineers simply didn’t conceive of this situation occurring. Occam’s razor would lead me to assume this wasn’t malice on apple’s part.

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by yamtaddle » Mon, Jan 16, 2023, 10:32 PM UTC

mklepaczewski wrote: post #35

Last time I checked a parent needed their own Apple device to set up app limits, downtime, accept/reject app installation requests on child's device. Thanks Apple. Now I have an option to give my kid unrestricted access to their device and to the whole Internet, or buy another IPhone just because my child uses Apple product.

IIRC you can sign in with an adult iCloud account then set all those same restrictions, protecting them behind an unlock code. The separate child iCloud accounts are handy if you do have multiple devices (remote management of those permissions is nice, and app store content sharing is nice) but if you just have a single one for your kid, that's an option. Adult iCloud account, enable restrictions with an unlock code. Unlock it when you need to manage the device or use it yourself.

But, IDK, maybe they got rid of that feature. Definitely used to be able to do that.

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by awinter-py » Mon, Jan 16, 2023, 10:32 PM UTC

excited for them to release their VR headset so they can speedrun the 'buy a quest to get support on your other account' timeline

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by robbomacrae » Mon, Jan 16, 2023, 10:33 PM UTC

Having worked at Apple I feel like this is a mortal risk they are taking. The Apple Watch could be the next big thing that replaces the smartphone, except they require an iPhone to use it. So instead of taking a short term hit and moving with the times they greedily hold on to their money maker and risk a competitor bringing out a standalone version and tanking the entire thing. Likewise the Apple TV is a great product and could dominate its category if it didn't require an iPhone.

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by xg15 » Mon, Jan 16, 2023, 10:34 PM UTC

Bonus points for Apple Support chiming in - to address an unrelated issue that another commenter casually mentioned.

About the original problem? Not a single word.

At least they are sending a clear message...

https://twitter.com/AppleSupport/status/1615094275334619136

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by saurik » Mon, Jan 16, 2023, 10:34 PM UTC

wincy wrote: post #22

denkmoon wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These devices are pointless "on their own". What would an Apple TV do without any external dependencies? Play the pre-loaded screen savers?

What? You can watch Netflix, Hulu, Disney+, and do a ton of other things that absolutely don’t require an iOS or macOS device to activate it.

You can also buy first-party stuff from iTunes on your AppleTV without any other device; maybe you need to have used a computer at some point in the past to make the Apple ID, but it certainly isn't an ongoing requirement to own anything except a TV (as AppleTV isn't actually a TV, despite the name ;P), and having an Apple ID is probably also required to download even free apps from the App Store.

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by Someone » Mon, Jan 16, 2023, 10:34 PM UTC

I wonder whether that prompt still is 100% correct, given that Apple recently put an Apple TV app on the Microsoft Store (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/apple-tv/9mw0zwqfh0m2)

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Jan 16, 2023, 10:34 PM UTC

makeitdouble wrote: post #31

It's interesting how the responses basically split into two camps: - the "just buy an iPhone" and "you've brought it on you, what did you expect" camp - the "Apple fix this" camp At the point I'm reading this, the first camp represents the vast majority of the responses. That's interesting regarding Apple's ongoing lawsuits and regulaory pressure. For most people Apple domination and dictating the rules is basically…

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