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Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by V__ »

robbomacrae wrote: post #46

Having worked at Apple I feel like this is a mortal risk they are taking. The Apple Watch could be the next big thing that replaces the smartphone, except they require an iPhone to use it. So instead of taking a short term hit and moving with the times they greedily hold on to their money maker and risk a competitor bringing out a standalone version and tanking the entire thing. Likewise the Apple TV is a great produ…

I gifted an Apple Watch this Christmas. I checked their site and saw that an iPhone was needed, but somehow thought any up-to-date iOS device would work. Since you can set up the watch for a family member (who doesn't have an iPhone) it has to work, right? Got the newest iPad? F*k you, buy and iPhone. That was a disappointing gift, I can tell you that.

There is absolutely no reason to impose such a limit. I don't understand it. However, I will never buy or recommend another Apple product ever again.

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Post by lapcat »

robbomacrae wrote: post #46

Having worked at Apple I feel like this is a mortal risk they are taking. The Apple Watch could be the next big thing that replaces the smartphone, except they require an iPhone to use it. So instead of taking a short term hit and moving with the times they greedily hold on to their money maker and risk a competitor bringing out a standalone version and tanking the entire thing. Likewise the Apple TV is a great produ…

> Having worked at Apple I feel like this is a mortal risk they are taking.

Serious question: On this business topic, how does it matter that you were a software engineer (according to your HN bio) at Apple?

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by heresaPizza »

mklepaczewski wrote: post #35

Last time I checked a parent needed their own Apple device to set up app limits, downtime, accept/reject app installation requests on child's device. Thanks Apple. Now I have an option to give my kid unrestricted access to their device and to the whole Internet, or buy another IPhone just because my child uses Apple product.

Actually there are many ways to set parental controls on device and lock them with a passcode or you could use third party solution that use the Screen Time API but are compatible with Android.

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Post by Terretta »

davidmurdoch wrote: post #64
maxutility wrote: post #34

Not mentioned in the OP: if your only Apple Device is an iPhone 7 or earlier, you’re out of luck, since iOS 16 requires iPhone 8 or newer.

So, it's not "an Apple device", but an iPhone that is required?

iPod Touch works fine, for example. Also, it's not actually needed to set up the TV device.

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by mik1998 »

Ishmaeli wrote: post #88
mik1998 wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would you buy your child an iphone if you don't have one?

I can't tell if this is sincere or a send-up, because it's literally Apple's apologetic for everything. Always blame the customer. "If your phone has bad reception, it's because you're holding it wrong. Why would you hold it like that?"

I don't own any Apple products and certainly wouldn't give my children any.

Especially if the children are young enough that you need to use parental controls.

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Post by throwaway290 »

heresaPizza wrote: post #102
robbomacrae wrote: post #46

Having worked at Apple I feel like this is a mortal risk they are taking. The Apple Watch could be the next big thing that replaces the smartphone, except they require an iPhone to use it. So instead of taking a short term hit and moving with the times they greedily hold on to their money maker and risk a competitor bringing out a standalone version and tanking the entire thing. Likewise the Apple TV is a great produ…

Being an iPhone + Watch + AirPods user I can say the exact opposite. The Watch is the perfect iPhone companion but it can’t replace it. Its screen is so small it makes me want to complete interactions as quick as possible. I love leaving the iPhone at home when I go for a walk and still listening music and podcasts, but it’s something that requires minimal interactions. Receiving notifications is great, but replying?…

For people who want to use phone less (no social media etc, like what I'm doing now HNing at breakfast) Watch alone could replace the phone function (can call, take calls, message) and a couple other devices (map, audio player) completely.

Re: Apple TV prompt requires another Apple device

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Post by tarotuser »

NLPaep wrote: post #92
tarotuser wrote: post #73

How does this not violate the Sherman Antitrust act under illegal tying of services and goods? > (From Wikipedia) Success on a tying claim typically requires proof of four elements: (1) two separate products or services are involved; (AppleTV and other Apple phone/iPad, as demanded by the tied product in question) (2) the purchase of the tying product is conditioned on the additional purchase of the tied product; (Ye…

The market power is too weak Apple TV market share is below 3%? https://www.statista.com/statistics/1171132/global-connected...

I could see that. However the only flaw with that graph is that the scope is world-wide. I believe the Sherman Antitrust Act cares primarily about US operations.

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Post by TillE »

zikduruqe wrote: post #82
robbomacrae wrote: post #46

Having worked at Apple I feel like this is a mortal risk they are taking. The Apple Watch could be the next big thing that replaces the smartphone, except they require an iPhone to use it. So instead of taking a short term hit and moving with the times they greedily hold on to their money maker and risk a competitor bringing out a standalone version and tanking the entire thing. Likewise the Apple TV is a great produ…

This. I seldom, if ever, carry my iPhone outside my house. My Apple Watch with cellular is enough for internet connectivity when away from home. In my perfect world, I could provision my Apple Watch as a standalone device, and I could get a MacBook with an eSIM.

> I seldom, if ever, carry my iPhone outside my house.

This is such an extreme outlier behavior, nobody is designing products around it. Pretty much everyone who owns a smartphone carries it around everywhere, because why not.

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Post by nostromo »

robbomacrae wrote: post #46

Having worked at Apple I feel like this is a mortal risk they are taking. The Apple Watch could be the next big thing that replaces the smartphone, except they require an iPhone to use it. So instead of taking a short term hit and moving with the times they greedily hold on to their money maker and risk a competitor bringing out a standalone version and tanking the entire thing. Likewise the Apple TV is a great produ…

They will cut the cord eventually.

Remember, iPods required a Mac at first. Then a Mac or a PC. Then neither.

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