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Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Post by dang »

fdschoeneman wrote: post #774
dang wrote: post #680

We've changed the URL from https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603593201683599360?s=46... , which doesn't have much information, to an article that has more information (the most out of the half a dozen I looked at). If there's a better article, we can change it again.

Why though? What public interest does this serve? I'm a veteran. I support your right to post links to the location of Elon's jet, or links you can follow to find same, in the same way I'd die to protect some shitbird's right to burn a US flag or kneel during the anthem, but what are you trying to accomplish? Other than to make yourself look like a jerk?

Sorry, but I don't quite understand what you're asking here.

Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Post by dukeofdoom »

Eddy_Viscosity2 wrote: post #895

It's interesting that many are debating the value of this 'rule', when this action is blatant abuse of his powers to silence his critics. He has now a lengthy and growing history of this type of behavior, so it was 100% foreseeable. He could just come out and say that its his twitter and he can do what he wants, but no, because he also wants to be seen as a 'defender of free speech'. He acts like a-hole, but then exp…

Let me fix your reasoning. Pro government journalists suspended after trying to intimidate a powerful critic by doxxing his location. FBI likely involved.

Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Post by scrollaway »

TheHappyOddish wrote: post #858
thefourthchime wrote: post #534

Earlier quoted context omitted.

perhaps the ultimate irony will be that people will ditch Twitter for something like Mastoden. Elon jet is alive and well over there. https://mastodon.social/@elonjet

I would assume given the situation, that account would be one of the most popular on Mastodon. It currently had 41k followers, and 2.5k likes on the post about it being banned on Twitter. Comparatively, Elon's most recently Twitter post ("Twitter right now is ") has 186k likes. It seems very unlikely the "great exodus" is happening or likely to happen due to this, at least to Mastodon.

I feel like you don't understand how exoduses work. It's not an "all at once from one day to the next" thing. The scales we're talking about cover hundreds of millions of people; it's nearly impossible for it to all be the same month, let alone the same day.

For example: Despite wanting to, it took me a month and half to migrate to Mastodon, for a variety of personal, irrelevant reasons. And I'm a techie. But now I'm there, I've unfollowed large amounts of people on Twitter, and am phasing it down entirely.

In the mean time, Mastodon gained magnitudes of users. Servers previously running fine are now overloaded. Services are shutting down to new signups left and right because they're overwhelmed.

When this happens, people notice. You should know: you're in a community composed of the kind of people who make their millions noticing trends like these and quickly jumping on them. This means more resources go into these trends, and it becomes like a wave: Every few weeks, there's a new large influx of people.

Every new "round" of this exodus, servers will be more ready, there will be more services, the social graph will be larger, and more people will be convinced.

Will Mastodon ever be larger than Twitter? No idea. It's definitely possible, but knowing in advance is not.

I can say one thing: I'm glad people are taking notice of the importance of decentralized social graphs again. It's nice to see, for once, an open source protocol growing organically and winning hearts and minds.

Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Post by giardini »

How about we put our effort behind campaign finance reform instead of complaining about Twitter?

I'd like to start by proposing that a law be written to declare corporations to be non-persons, get them out of our elections and to allow only citizens (and not corporations) to contribute money and spam to elections.

Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Post by r00fus »

richbell wrote: post #897
Eddy_Viscosity2 wrote: post #895

It's interesting that many are debating the value of this 'rule', when this action is blatant abuse of his powers to silence his critics. He has now a lengthy and growing history of this type of behavior, so it was 100% foreseeable. He could just come out and say that its his twitter and he can do what he wants, but no, because he also wants to be seen as a 'defender of free speech'. He acts like a-hole, but then exp…

Elon Musk is the kid on the playground shouting "time-out" and inventing a new rule every time he's about to get tagged.

Let's just rename Twitter to Elonball (h/t Calvin&Hobbes)

Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Post by aagha »

dukeofdoom wrote: post #983
Eddy_Viscosity2 wrote: post #895

It's interesting that many are debating the value of this 'rule', when this action is blatant abuse of his powers to silence his critics. He has now a lengthy and growing history of this type of behavior, so it was 100% foreseeable. He could just come out and say that its his twitter and he can do what he wants, but no, because he also wants to be seen as a 'defender of free speech'. He acts like a-hole, but then exp…

Let me fix your reasoning. Pro government journalists suspended after trying to intimidate a powerful critic by doxxing his location. FBI likely involved.

This is completely false. Either you're blatantly lying or completely misinformed about what happened.

Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Post by Terretta »

PM_me_your_math wrote: post #964
Eddy_Viscosity2 wrote: post #895

It's interesting that many are debating the value of this 'rule', when this action is blatant abuse of his powers to silence his critics. He has now a lengthy and growing history of this type of behavior, so it was 100% foreseeable. He could just come out and say that its his twitter and he can do what he wants, but no, because he also wants to be seen as a 'defender of free speech'. He acts like a-hole, but then exp…

Blocking those who want to give the general public up to-the-minute location information on him and his family is "silencing his critics?" Nothing could be further from the truth. You have no fundamental right to track Elon Musk, just like I would have no fundamental right to track the whereabouts of you and your family. Disagree? When do you let us attach a tracking device to your conveyance? Few, if any, would be c…

> You have no fundamental right to track Elon Musk, just like I would have no fundamental right to track the whereabouts of you and your family. Disagree? When do you let us attach a tracking device to your conveyance?

Nobody's tracking Musk, they're tracking his plane. Further, "they" aren't tracking it, the gov is, and publishing it, as public information.

Everyone lets the same tracker be attached to their conveyance ... WHEN THEY OWN A JET.

Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Post by 8note »

Eddy_Viscosity2 wrote: post #895

It's interesting that many are debating the value of this 'rule', when this action is blatant abuse of his powers to silence his critics. He has now a lengthy and growing history of this type of behavior, so it was 100% foreseeable. He could just come out and say that its his twitter and he can do what he wants, but no, because he also wants to be seen as a 'defender of free speech'. He acts like a-hole, but then exp…

I think it's funny that he's using ha platform he owns to silence his critics, but not an abuse.

He owns it; he gets to decide the rules, and everyone else gets to decide whether we want to use a platform with those rules

It's not going to work out well for musk financially when nobody wants to use it anymore, but that's his problem. Our problem is finding alternatives

Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Post by dukeofdoom »

aagha wrote: post #987
dukeofdoom wrote: post #983

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let me fix your reasoning. Pro government journalists suspended after trying to intimidate a powerful critic by doxxing his location. FBI likely involved.

This is completely false. Either you're blatantly lying or completely misinformed about what happened.

Saying something is false doesn't make it so. Granted , political truths can be somewhat subjective. My conclusions flow from; Elon being directly intimidated by a stalker. The politically motivated violence in the last few years, makes it completely reasonable for Elon to feel threatened to have his location released.

Keith Olbermann being a very pro government journalist, along the other journalist is true. And the FBI now having a documented history of interfering in what media companies publish ( by Twitter's own records, and Mark Zuckerberg public statements). Provides FBI motive to try to intimidate the man that help to exposed them.

There's little value in journalists carrying about releasing Elon Musks location... especially given all the journalistic principles these same "journalists" previously did not care about.

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