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Post by ilyt »

award_ wrote: post #86
beachy wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Elon's slide into max doucheness is a real shame. I used to tell my kids he was one of the most admirable people around for jump starting the EV industry (yes, I know he didn't do it all). Then came the pedo guy comments. I cut him slack, he must be tired/strung out, he'll apologise. He never did. Now he's become like a meme of himself, or perhaps just himself as he always was but now right out there, and it's not go…

I feel this comment. I wasn't always a 'fan' per-se of Elon, but I was definitely able to appreciate what his associated companies had put forth. Anymore, I can't stomach the continuous news stream of awful behavior, treatment of others displayed, etc. I cannot support a person like him or what he stands for/represents at this time (or in the foreseeable future).

I'm perplexed why people "supported" this twat from the start

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Post by fdschoeneman »

hackcasual wrote: post #2

Difficult not to see this as anything other petulance. It's Musk's site and he's free to do whatever he wants with it, but this seems squarely against "any legal speech will be allowed"

Did you watch the same video I did? It's easy to see this as something other than petulance. It's not complicated. Elon is scared for his family. That's a very human thing. In his place I'd do everything I could to protect them. The elonjet account was a security risk to a public figure in the same way that publishing the home address of Supreme Court Justices is a legitimate security risk -- and in the same way that it led to an attempted assassination of Judge Kavanaugh.

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Post by awb »

yyyk wrote: post #312

The underlying issue: Musk's incentives don't give him much reason to care if Twitter goes under. Musk likely feels he might as well push for any changes he likes, and gain whether Twitter survives or not. What was Musk's biggest bugbear about 'old' Twitter? The moderation system. If Twitter goes under, the only practical alternative at the moment is Mastodon, and Mastodon can't replicate Twitter's moderation due to…

Why wouldn’t he care if Twitter goes under? It would be a double digit % decrease of his net worth if Twitter halves in value. It would also be a public embarrassment, and a wasted opportunity to have spent more time at his other companies.

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Post by fdschoeneman »

dang wrote: post #680

We've changed the URL from https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603593201683599360?s=46... , which doesn't have much information, to an article that has more information (the most out of the half a dozen I looked at). If there's a better article, we can change it again.

Why though? What public interest does this serve? I'm a veteran. I support your right to post links to the location of Elon's jet, or links you can follow to find same, in the same way I'd die to protect some shitbird's right to burn a US flag or kneel during the anthem, but what are you trying to accomplish? Other than to make yourself look like a jerk?

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Post by dillondoyle »

richbell wrote: post #164
eggy wrote: post #111

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Oh, just like when pre-Musk Twitter banned NY Post/journalists over a true story about Hunter Biden's laptop. I don't see how an anti-doxxing rule banning people tracking Elon Musk's whereabouts is worse.

> Oh, just like when pre-Musk Twitter banned NY Post/journalists over a true story about Hunter Biden's laptop. I don't see how an anti-doxxing rule banning people tracking Elon Musk's whereabouts is worse. Calling it "Hunter Biden's laptop" ignores the fact that it was hacked information provided by a foreign adversary to sow division and influence an election. That is not comparable to sharing publicly available in…

There is not proof it was by a foreign government afaik. Though from the reporting I've read it does seem to be murky at a minimum, and not proven to be as clear as top comment-or said. Doesn't matter though.

That specific context you mention is VERY important:

Russia already did this.

The FBI specifically warned to TW that a leak like this had high chance of happening just at the time it did.

Twitter was right to be cautious.

Maybe didn't do everything consistently or perfectly, but I would far prefer them limiting the reach of Hunter dick pics and crack photos than letting a foreign government do so much damage again.

I think their main error was being slow as more background & info was uncovered.

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Post by forgotpwd16 »

gwn7 wrote: post #764

I don't care whether the Washington Post is right or not on this one; but it is good to see that these people are now getting a taste of their own medicine. Nobody from that camp was lifting a finger when "conspiracy theorists" were being banned from Twitter. People were saying that "Twitter was a private company who could ban whoever it wanted". Here is a past thread of mine: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=311…

Fwiw I checked comments of the ones that commented in your past thread and from those whoever has commented on recent Twitter threads has retained their opinion. So based on that cannot imply the people saying "Twitter can do whatever it wants" and people calling out what happens now are the same.

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Post by Dudelander »

jrmg wrote: post #684

Musk on November 6th: My commitment to free speech extends even to not banning the account following my plane, even though that is a direct personal safety risk https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/15894149585086914...

I think the take away here is that any "digital town square" should not be a privately owned for-profit corporation.

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Post by akmarinov »

anigbrowl wrote: post #412

Echoing David Sacks, he's now tweeting that the journalists in question were tweeting 'assassination coordinates.' https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603587970832793600 Starting to think there might be some national security issues with one guy being the nominal linchpin of the US space program, satellite internet, and global public messaging infrastructure.

Global? Twitter’s barely used in Europe, let alone Asia and Africa.

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Post by irdc »

camjohnson26 wrote: post #716
bigiain wrote: post #711

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“I hope that even my worst critics remain on Twitter, because that’s what free speech means” —@elonmusk 20220425 https://twitter.com/artywah/status/1603592195046400000 (I don’t have a direct link to that tweet, but I’m confident that screenshot tweet isn’t faked.) Edit: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1518623997054918657

And in the 3 minute call where he popped onto a Twitter space tonight, he now says doxxing is zero tolerance and journalists aren't above the rules. But the alleged "doxxing" was the journalist doing nothing more than linking to the @elonjet account. @elonjet can be found on Mastodon at https://mastodon.social/@elonjet Incredibly, links to Mastodon instances are now flagged as a safety risk on Twitter. Video of the T…

> Incredibly, links to Mastodon instances are now flagged as a safety risk on Twitter.

Isn't that considered to be anticompetitive behaviour, what with Twitter being the dominant player in the microblogging space and all?

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Post by infrawhispers »

Musk joined a Twitter Spaces discussion about the bans and was mocked after he left [1]. Notably, suspended accounts were on stage with Elon during the discussion [2].

The space was ended abruptly 30 minutes later and it appears it was killed on Twitter’s side given that the usual metadata does not match what a closed Space has. This Space was being recorded and the replay is not available [3].

Musk now claims that they are fixing a “legacy bug” [4] and this is why Spaces has been disabled. In my opinion, Musk is behaving like a petulant child and his group of cheerleaders look more ridiculous and without backbone each day.

[1] https://twitter.com/forevereversley/status/16036127708929187...

[2] https://twitter.com/katienotopoulos/status/16036045712884695...

[3] https://twitter.com/ashtonpittman/status/1603622824177848326

[4] https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603649264290123778

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