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Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Post by beachy »

exodust wrote: post #455
beachy wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Elon's slide into max doucheness is a real shame. I used to tell my kids he was one of the most admirable people around for jump starting the EV industry (yes, I know he didn't do it all). Then came the pedo guy comments. I cut him slack, he must be tired/strung out, he'll apologise. He never did. Now he's become like a meme of himself, or perhaps just himself as he always was but now right out there, and it's not go…

> "...he'll apologise. He never did." He apologised more than once. Including on Twitter and again in court where he looked the guy directly in the face and apologised. I mean, it was widely reported but somehow you missed the headlines at the time such as Washington Post's "Elon Musk apologizes for ‘pedo guy’ comment: ‘The fault is mine and mine alone’"!

You're right, I did miss it. But it looks he followed up with this (after the apology) so the point stands:

He blasted: "He's an old, single white guy from England who's been travelling to or living in Thailand for 30 to 40 years, mostly Pattaya Beach, until moving to Chiang Rai for a child bride who was about 12 years old at the time.

"There's only one reason people go to Pattaya Beach. It isn't where you go for caves, but it is where you'd go for something else.

"Chiang Rai is renowned for child sex-trafficking."

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Post by lastofthemojito »

hndamien wrote: post #396
Ajedi32 wrote: post #263

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As one of those people: yeah, this is pretty terrible. I don't think being allowed to share the exact location of individual private jets is nearly as important for the public discourse as some of the other stories Twitter has censored in the past (pre-Elon), but this still represents a significant departure from what Musk was promising before the buyout (that basically anything legal to say would be allowed). I'd mu…

What would you think about sharing Prince Harry's live location?

Like broadcasting his mother's funeral on live television? Ban the BBC!

Obviously there are times when the rich and famous know that their location is public. At those times they generally have good security.

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Post by sillysaurusx »

rayiner wrote: post #282
afavour wrote: post #22

So this is how Twitter goes out: not with a bang but with a seemingly endless stream of stories about the little ways Elon is ruining the service each day. Just staggers me that Elon could have just… not done any of this. And yet here we are. He’s had to sell billions in Tesla stock to finance this ongoing mayhem, this is surely going to be up there as one of the greatest examples of hubris in modern business.

If Musk does end up taking out Twitter, it’ll be up there with electric cars and rebooting the private space travel industry as a service to humanity. Twitter is an awful platform that relies on cognitive hacks to elevate the worst people (across the spectrum) to prominence. Do you remember the last few years? We got to the point where respectable news outlets were reporting on cable news the insane takes that were f…

Whoa. I didn’t downvote, but that’s a surprising take from you.

One obvious problem with it is that if Twitter dies, some other site will take its place. The idea of tweeting isn’t going anywhere. It’d be a bit like trying to uninvent a bicycle.

More generally, a bunch of thoughtful people use Twitter, and Twitter DMs changed my life. It’s the AOL messenger of the 2020s. A low friction “DMs open” platform is very hard to come by — the closest before the messenger era was email, which usually isn’t a conversation. So there would be a real loss in terms of social value. E.g. TikTok requires both people follow each other before DMing, so there’s not even an option.

You’re not entirely mistaken, but the caveats seem worth calling out. On the whole it seems like more harm than good would come from the implosion.

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Post by thefourthchime »

boomboomsubban wrote: post #204

Someone posted yesterday that the beginning of Musk's Twitter buy happened shortly after elonjet refused his $5000 offer to buy the account. The rational part of me says he surely couldn't have spent $45 billion dollars to shut the account down, but it's kinda feeling more and more true as the story continues. It's like this is the 21st century version of the San Francisco story where Yung refused to sell their house…

perhaps the ultimate irony will be that people will ditch Twitter for something like Mastoden.

Elon jet is alive and well over there.

https://mastodon.social/@elonjet

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Post by photochemsyn »

MonkeyMalarky wrote: post #228
photochemsyn wrote: post #122

What defines a 'prominent journalist' in today's media world? Is it a record of groundbreaking investigative research, or something else?

Why, its based on the karma points you've earned, didn't you know?

I hope it doesn't correlate to the size of one's salary, because that seems to have little to do with the quality of the content being generated in the corporate media world.

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Post by asabjorn »

hcnews wrote: post #132

As an early Tesla investor (from early-mid 2010s), I find Elon's behaviour change over last 2-3 years pretty toxic and inhumane. From the days of fighting california for covid lockdowns to now hiding behind "free speech" doing whatever he wants anyways (which is sucking up to republicans and russians and who knows who else). I want to say this isn't 100% unexpected (some people show true behaviour openly only once th…

> I would even be ok with 50%-100% tax rate above 100 million dollars net worth.

What is the rationale behind you think the bureaucrats with no skin-in-the-game would apply the money better than an entrepreneur and with more balance for society?

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Post by thefourthchime »

iaw wrote: post #236
boomboomsubban wrote: post #204

Someone posted yesterday that the beginning of Musk's Twitter buy happened shortly after elonjet refused his $5000 offer to buy the account. The rational part of me says he surely couldn't have spent $45 billion dollars to shut the account down, but it's kinda feeling more and more true as the story continues. It's like this is the 21st century version of the San Francisco story where Yung refused to sell their house…

The story https://www.foundsf.org/index.php?title=Crocker%27s_Spite_Fe...

reminds me of the rumor that Trump only ran for president after he was humiliated by Obama at the dinner

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Post by ceejayoz »

kcplate wrote: post #525
GoofballJones wrote: post #370

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those journalists weren't reporting specific locations of his jet...they were reporting on a legit news story about it. Musk didn't like it so the journalists are now banned. The dude is truly off his rocker now. The "rules" are whatever he makes up on the spot. He's self-destructing before our eyes...no longer the richest man in the world. Telsa stock tanking all because he can't STFU and acts like a spoiled 12 year…

> The "rules" are whatever he makes up on the spot. He paid for that privilege.

Sure, and he has that privilege.

He's making rules he promised not to, and we don't have to pay for the privilege to criticize that hypocrisy.

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Post by nickthegreek »

kcplate wrote: post #525
GoofballJones wrote: post #370

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those journalists weren't reporting specific locations of his jet...they were reporting on a legit news story about it. Musk didn't like it so the journalists are now banned. The dude is truly off his rocker now. The "rules" are whatever he makes up on the spot. He's self-destructing before our eyes...no longer the richest man in the world. Telsa stock tanking all because he can't STFU and acts like a spoiled 12 year…

> The "rules" are whatever he makes up on the spot. He paid for that privilege.

Well he got his friends to help pay too.. so it’s all of their privilege.

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Post by spoils19 »

kredd wrote: post #515
Grim-444 wrote: post #458

Not trying to be snarky here, but I'm curious what percentage of the people complaining in this thread also complained about the constant censorship and deplatforming by Twitter pre-Musk? Don't get me wrong, I think it's all bad, both ways, it's just the outcry now is extremely telling. Do you not believe it was happening before? Or were you not told that it was happening before? Or did you just not care before becau…

It’s just a bit funny how “absolutely no censorship” turns into “lol k only censorship that I like”. Somehow quite a lot of people who were “free speech absolutists” playing mental gymnastics to explain why THIS type is acceptable. Disclaimer: I am not a free speech absolutist, and realize its shortcomings in public forums.

Luckily this forum doesn't have any of those - and if any claim to be, it encourages curious discussion, so I'm willing to chalk it up to playing devil's advocate.
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