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Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by drooby »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #92
drooby wrote: post #71

Twitters relevant policy: “Private information: You may not publish or post other people's private information (such as home phone number and address) without their express authorization and permission. We also prohibit threatening to expose private information or incentivizing others to do so. Learn more.” Now.. his fight information is technically “public” but in that same sense, phone numbers and street addresses…

> Elon claimed he would not “ban” the account. And he has not done so. They were suspended. That's just nitpicking. the ElonJet account didn't "violate Musk's privacy", it just "republished tracker information".

“Republished tracker information” Lol wow.. that’s a cutesy way of saying something super creepy. Talk about Orewellian

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Post by somerandomqaguy »

_ea1k wrote: post #234
folkrav wrote: post #216

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://twitter.com/BillGatesJet https://twitter.com/bezosjets I guess Musk only sees it as an issue when it's his own privacy innit

Good catch. That definitely makes it look very personal.

Gets even sillier: https://twitter.com/CelebJets has tweets for Taylor Swift, Jay-Z, Oprah Winfrey, Kenny Chesney, Tom Cruise, etc...

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Post by halfjoking »

lucideer wrote: post #162
mrtksn wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The good thing about Musk claiming Free speech absolutism is that we can hold him responsible for it. He might be a free speech NIMBY but because he claims to support free speech, his actions that clearly contradict this claim have very heavy toll on his persona. IMHO Musk has a real opportunity to actually make Twitter great, Twitter was in a horrible shape and no one was happy with its state and I hoped that he can…

> have very heavy toll on his persona His supporters are fanatical - none of his previous abhorrent actions have had a heavy toll, so it's unclear why this one should. He is certainly receiving a large backlash to his recent actions, but I think that's more a case of people (outside of tech) who would've paid little attention to him before being forced to be more fully aware of his existence, than anyone who previous…

So let me list Musk’s abhorrent censorship actions:

-Bans people impersonating him like Kathy Griffin

-Bans people who share internal communications at Twitter

-Bans people who post sensitive information like his address, phone number or private jet location

-Bans a few militant Antifa groups

Is there anything else? Because I’m not seeing the abhorrent part, especially compared to pre-Musk censorship.

Why should I be outraged now? When epidemiologists were censored leading to unvaccinated being banned from society last winter, no one made a fuss about it.

https://reclaimthenet.org/twitter-reverses-censorship-andrew...

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

minimaxir wrote: post #272
perihelions wrote: post #109

He's also posted internal Twitter screenshots, allegedly showing a VP was personally involved in @ElonJet moderation. (In the context of an earlier moderation action -- visibility filtering ("VF")). - "A screenshot of what he claimed was an internal Slack channel showed Ella Irwin, the person appointed to replace Yoel Roth as Twitter’s new head of trust and safety, asking a “Team” to “please apply heavy VF to @elonje…

It's worth noting that Twitter dissolved the Trust and Safety Council after that tweet was posted: https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/twitter-disbands-trus... It's unclear if Ella Irwin still works at Twitter, but giving everything going on I strongly suspect there's no one to moderate against Elon personally banning an account he does not like.

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Post by cshimmin »

mtmail wrote: post #348
stephc_int13 wrote: post #305

Has Elon ever heard of the Streisand effect?

There's so many Twitter/Elon stories in the news cycle right now I'd be more worried he causes artificial little scandals to distract people from other scandals. Not sure what that strategy is called.

Seems inspired by trump's playbook?

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Post by m_fayer »

busyant wrote: post #400
CommieBobDole wrote: post #356

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think Musk's behavior (and the behavior of a lot of public figures, really) makes more sense if you assume that he's not saying things to express ideas, but instead regards words as noises that you make with your mouth that cause other people to do or think things; if they stop having the intended effect, you have to change the noises. It's not hypocrisy, it's the natural outgrowth of seeing other people as a colle…

This is poetry. And it has the added benefit of being true.

Yep. Poetry that leads to the horrifying realization that many of our elites live in a world surrounded by p-zombies, and somehow, this doesn't give them a moment's pause.

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Post by AlexandrB »

yosefk wrote: post #389
rrmm wrote: post #138

Surely, this will be addressed in the next installment of the "Twitter Files". /s

I feel like the really interesting part of "The Twitter Files" isn't the arbitrary moderation decisions made (we sort of knew what they were thru their implementation and it's hard for moderation to be "not arbitrary" whether you agree with the decisions or not) but the involvement of US government representatives in it. I'm neither a lawyer nor an American but AFAIK according to past SCOTUS rulings, it is illegal fo…

> I feel like the really interesting part of "The Twitter Files" isn't the arbitrary moderation decisions made (we sort of knew what they were thru their implementation and it's hard for moderation to be "not arbitrary" whether you agree with the decisions or not) but the involvement of US government representatives in it.

I haven't followed parts 2 & 3 of the Twitter files. But the irony here is that the government officials involved in part 1 were the Trump administration. Biden was not yet elected and should be considered a private citizen.

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Post by orhmeh09 »

LimitedInfo wrote: post #394
coldpie wrote: post #294

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> serious question, does free speech extend to doxing Boy, what a complicated and serious question. We should form a committee to discuss exactly where our community places reasonable boundaries and adjudicate blurry edge cases. Who could have predicted that a policy like "if it's legal, it's allowed" would lead to problems? Surely no one with a few dozen billion dollars to set on fire would be that unbelievably stup…

ok point taken but I think this might be a case of removing general public access to all flight data, instead of some rule change on twitter.

There are plenty of legitimate uses for that. How do you tell legitimate from not?

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Post by purephase »

fnordpiglet wrote: post #387
minimaxir wrote: post #272

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's worth noting that Twitter dissolved the Trust and Safety Council after that tweet was posted: https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/twitter-disbands-trus... It's unclear if Ella Irwin still works at Twitter, but giving everything going on I strongly suspect there's no one to moderate against Elon personally banning an account he does not like.

I don’t mean to be a antagonistic but as the owner of twitter why would we expect he not have the right and ability to ban anyone he likes? When it was publicly held there was some accountability to the shareholders as part of the public. Now he can literally carry a sink around wherever he wants

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