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Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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serious question, does free speech extend to doxing? Personally I wouldn't like if there was a twitter that constantly tweeted the location of my car.

Flight data is already public, the account was "just" posting about it on Twitter.

So if I find your phone number in the white pages you'll have no problem with everyone knowing it, right? Because that's public information, right?

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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He's also posted internal Twitter screenshots, allegedly showing a VP was personally involved in @ElonJet moderation. (In the context of an earlier moderation action -- visibility filtering ("VF")). - "A screenshot of what he claimed was an internal Slack channel showed Ella Irwin, the person appointed to replace Yoel Roth as Twitter’s new head of trust and safety, asking a “Team” to “please apply heavy VF to @elonje…

It's worth noting that Twitter dissolved the Trust and Safety Council after that tweet was posted: https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/twitter-disbands-trus...

It's unclear if Ella Irwin still works at Twitter, but giving everything going on I strongly suspect there's no one to moderate against Elon personally banning an account he does not like.

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Flight information provided to the FAA is considered public information. This is funded with taxpayer money, and is not privy to privacy.

To put it in such a highly accessible form is an invitation to crackpots. Crackpots and mobs generally do not get incited by FAA travel logs that requires some diligence to track.

So we should shut down flightradar24, too, I assume? Because that's a lot more highly accessible than a twitter account and has real time status. On all planes, not just Elon's. The horror!

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Looks like he's sprinting towards the endgame of bankruptcy: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/13/technology/elon-musk-twit...

I'm guessing bankruptcy has always been the plan, but I never really understood why his financial backers would knowingly light a pile of money on fire. For oppressive governments, it seems easier to monitor & block activity on one major social media platform, rather than quashing twitter and dealing with the dozens of platforms that rise from the ashes. Maybe it's a megalomaniac dictator thing, and I will never unde…

Musk's grand plan is to lose $30B or so of his own money, plus $13B from bankers who trusted that he would pay them back? That does not seem plausible to me.

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Good to see I'm vindicated in the prediction that Musk has zero interest in free speech, he only has interest in his narrative being dominant on Twitter.

He's also restored countless accounts that were banned under previous ownership. While banning ElonJet flys in the face of being a "free speech absolutist", he's certainly demonstrated that he's generally in favor of freer speech.

> he's certainly demonstrated that he's generally in favor of freer speech.

He's just changed who gets banned to be more in line with his personal beliefs. Accounts banned under the previous regime are unbanned and accounts that either were or likely would be permitted previously are now banned, with recent examples being the account that initially hosted the viral clip of Elon being booed on Chappelle's show and now ElonJet.

The latter example is particularly important, since both the public and Elon himself seemed to view this account as a litmus test of his commitment to "free speech."

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Good to see I'm vindicated in the prediction that Musk has zero interest in free speech, he only has interest in his narrative being dominant on Twitter.

He's also restored countless accounts that were banned under previous ownership. While banning ElonJet flys in the face of being a "free speech absolutist", he's certainly demonstrated that he's generally in favor of freer speech.

Twitter has also banned lots of left wing activist accounts, maybe we can agree that he has demonstrated that he's in favor of some free speech but not of free other speech?

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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His commitment to his free speech is unwavering.

Unwaveringly low?

He is using the concept of legal free speech correctly while memeing about a philosophical free speech that matches the colloquialism that many of his sycophants and observers think

Legal free speech has only to do with retribution via criminal liability from government organizations, alongside freedom to disassociate from speech and expression that you don't like

Twitter is not a government organization and is also not capable of levying criminal charges against anyone, and is free to disassociate from speech and expression it doesn't like thanks to the 1st amendment. Yes, this is the same capability as anyone else and the same possibility as Twitter operated before, aside from different choices of who its leadership chooses to dis/associate with.

It is an accurate commitment to free speech.

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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I mean, he's openly been saying the level of death threats he's been receiving is exceedingly high. Seems like it could just be for security.

That is silly. Anybody who really wants to know where that jet is won't be relying on an entertainment account on Twitter, they'll just use FlightRadar24 to get it real time.

There's a lot of crazy unstable people, they wont know about or be able to regularly plan monitoring FlightRadar24. They can however see "Musk lands in Chicago Midway" and run down there.

So, yes a targeted organized attack wouldn't be overly hard a random chaotic attack is easier with this twitter account.

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Coincidentally, the @TweetTweaker account — which AFAIK was the first to call wide attention [0] to Elon buying up twitter shares right after his $5k offer to @ElonJet was rebuffed — is currently suspended. Its last public interaction was around Nov 6, 2022 [1] https://archive.vn/WLXQJ [1] https://twitter.com/GreatPaul_Smith/status/15894241378646097...

It's pretty amazing that one guy tweeting public info made Elon spend 44 billion.
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