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Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by drooby »

Twitters relevant policy:

“Private information: You may not publish or post other people's private information (such as home phone number and address) without their express authorization and permission. We also prohibit threatening to expose private information or incentivizing others to do so. Learn more.”

Now.. his fight information is technically “public” but in that same sense, phone numbers and street addresses are also “public”. Thus, a suspension to the flight tracking account seems in alignment with Twitter policy.

Elon claimed he would not “ban” the account. And he has not done so. They were suspended.

Okay edit lol: I _actually_ didn't know that "Suspended" is the equivalent to "Permanently Suspended" aka"Banned" on twitter. Shocking, I know. I walk back my second statement.

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by ethbr0 »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #16

I think Elon is/was trying to bring back the "glory days" of the internet where free speech was the driving force behind tons of early internet projects. Seemingly everyone was onboard with the internet being humanities bastion of free speech and that had to be protected at all costs. Then the wild west internet was developed into a city and well, you just can't walk around shooting your gun wherever you want anymore…

Well put!

At it's core, the modern internet-using demographic is incompatible with the pre-2000 wild west free speech internet.

To not mince words -- current internet users are not technically educated or paranoid enough, and their expectations have aligned with the guarantees provided by the current walled gardens.

That was the internet of "If you run an exe downloaded off a webpage, you install a virus with zero warnings."

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That said, I do get where Elon was aiming, and I think news media is shit for either deliberately misconstruing or not understanding his position.

To wit: that in a truly open marketplace of ideas, extremism will be shudden with the sunlight of transparency.

So instead of nanny-stating things for people, show them how stupid neo-nazi's sound, and let them decide for themselves.

What I think he underestimated was how unprepared the world (users + civil groups + government) was for a return to that model.

For example, if Twitter enabled tools to help journalists correlate associated accounts... how many news organizations still exist who have staff to do that work?

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by cpncrunch »

suyash wrote: post #19
hidelooktropic wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's already public. It's just ported over to Twitter.

it should not be linked to VIPs and tracked like this, it's almost as creepy as stalking what this guy did. reported all his accounts.

Does it break a twitter rule?

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by DoctorOW »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #16

I think Elon is/was trying to bring back the "glory days" of the internet where free speech was the driving force behind tons of early internet projects. Seemingly everyone was onboard with the internet being humanities bastion of free speech and that had to be protected at all costs. Then the wild west internet was developed into a city and well, you just can't walk around shooting your gun wherever you want anymore…

I actually really like this metaphor. To extend it, I think we do have to address that part of the reason it's so hard to bring people over to this way of thinking is because deep down they personally want to shoot someone but it's easier to pretend not to understand than it is to actually defend that idea.

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by fundad »

_eht wrote: post #21
Overtonwindow wrote: post #7

Just an observation, but it seems that the Twitter files revelations are getting drastically less press than everything else Elon does. It almost feels like kill the messenger

Please explain the noteworthy parts of a private entity giving political entities special treatment. I’ll take my answer off the line. Thanks.

Not to mention it’s not reliable because they held back all emails from the Trump White House about removing content.

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by abraxas »

michaelbuckbee wrote: post #61

A lot of hypocrisy from Elon here, but I'm at least somewhat sympathetic to taking down these accounts that are tracking people as it's so close to a Doxing or could lead to something bad happening. A few years ago, we were all mad at Uber for their "God View" which tracked celebrity locations -> https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-38314832

Yeah, meanwhile a guy who has millions of followers and keeps spewing conspiracy nonsense about stolen elections is allowed back in because of course nothing bad could ever happen out of inciting that.

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by ProAm »

michaelbuckbee wrote: post #61

A lot of hypocrisy from Elon here, but I'm at least somewhat sympathetic to taking down these accounts that are tracking people as it's so close to a Doxing or could lead to something bad happening. A few years ago, we were all mad at Uber for their "God View" which tracked celebrity locations -> https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-38314832

This is publicly available information. It's nothing close to doxing.
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