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Google to lay off 10k “poor performers”

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Re: Google to lay off 10k “poor performers”

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NewTech was supposed to be “web 3,” so we are going to have to wait a little longer for something real at this point.

You could have said the same thing about internet companies after the first dotcom bubble.

Sure, I am not saying it won’t happen. Just that it’s going to take longer than expected thanks to FTX and friends.

Re: Google to lay off 10k “poor performers”

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It'll be interesting to see how this (and the Meta layoffs) are reported on, compared to the to weeks of non-stop outrage over the goings on at Twitter

Google has dozens of moonshots which add nothing to the bottom line, to say nothing of the software projects they launch all the time which people look at and go "it'll be dead in 6 weeks" (and they're right). Meta spent 10 billion dollars on Metaverse stuff no one uses. If Meta had done 0 Metaverse things, they would have lost no revenue, but would have 10 billion more dollars.

So those two have areas, probably entire departments, they can trim. By comparison, Twitter was all muscle.

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Oh it is totally passive-aggressive coersion. The notion of "poor performers" is a sign of bad management. They bloat the company to where they can no longer get their billion dollar handouts, er, payouts, and then take it out on people who actually care about their jobs and claim they are "poor" at it. While scaring the shit out of everyone else. I know there are going to be a bunch of bros who think, "Yeah, that's…

> But it's Amazon, it's a synonym for toxic. You realize this article is about Google, right?

To the three of you that told me this. You are correct, it is Google. Is there a difference? (Rhetorical)

Re: Google to lay off 10k “poor performers”

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BREAKING: 6% of workforce will be ranked in the sixth percentile. This “news” is from back in May when the new performance management system buckets were released.

Thank you for being the only commenter in this thread with an accurate take.

Unfortunately my take is probably not the whole story. There’s likely some grain of truth to this reporting in terms of a reduction in force being planned, but nobody is sure what form or strategy will be employed.

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The driver thing could be regional. I have always lived in a less dense area and the drivers always were happy and helpful. Didn't look at all like what I'd expect from the news.

Were they happy, or did they just appear so? Some places punish employees that don't act unnaturally friendly and happy.

How often do you see your driver directly? I see them frequently because I'm often outside.

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Yes, this is not a real story. Pure speculation. No real sources. IMO as a Google employee, I don’t see layoffs happening. The company has started hiring again. My coworkers are flooded with interviews. We’re still having holiday parties and other “fun” spending seems to have returned. I have no inside knowledge, that’s just my own personal observation.

I don't want to be a party pooper but it's unlikely that Google will not undergo some sort of reduction in workforce. I really really hope that I'm wrong but based on the messaging this will happen.

What messaging?

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Why would Google hire "poor performers" in the first place? Google, in part, built credibility with its talent because it's hiring process selected for exceptional talent and Googlers levereaged this into basically a passport to work anywhere. Google is shooting itself in the foot by framing it this way in the sense that it destroys the illusion that they have better hiring practices has the cost of not attracting th…

in any group of people, half are below average, by definition. they might still be in the 95th quantile in the rest of the world, and be in the bottom 6% in google.

The biggest problem with these stack rankings is that the variation isn't evenly distributed. Across the entirety of Google engineering half are below average, but they might all be in single division/group/team and you may be destroying extremely productive teams by forcing them to cut bottom performers.

Re: Google to lay off 10k “poor performers”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you for being the only commenter in this thread with an accurate take.

Unfortunately my take is probably not the whole story. There’s likely some grain of truth to this reporting in terms of a reduction in force being planned, but nobody is sure what form or strategy will be employed.

Agreed.

Re: Google to lay off 10k “poor performers”

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It’s incredibly shitty to telegraph to other employers that all the people you’re about to layoff are damaged goods. Completely unnecessary.

I do not think I personally know any googlers so I might be victim of marketing, but unless they are HR dept ( yes, I don't like HR ), from where I sit, even 'low performing' Google dropout is likely a steal for a company. But now that I thought about a little more, I think I understood one more layer to this. Google is telling the other employers: 'You can pay them less you otherwise would have.' I have to admit tha…

even 'low performing' Google dropout is likely a steal for a company.

I'm not so sure about this. Most companies work in a level of chaos and mess I think most Googlers wouldn't be able to go adapt too very easily.

I find it's very hard to hire people that can work productively through the chaotic and dysfunctional way most companies I work at operate. This is not to say we still don't deliver valuable, even highly profitable things. It's just that we're not often working as a 25 year old mature corporation with decent management would.

I've not worked at Google but from what I've told, it sounds leaving Google for most other companies is like going from first class back to coach and I don't think that is an easy adjustment for many.

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