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Re: Twitter faces a class action lawsuit over mass employee layoffs with proper

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Post by Tangurena2 »

rajeshp1986 wrote: post #77
baidifnaoxi wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is exactly it. Terminated technically means, no longer receiving compensation or benefits. If Musk is basically saying “stop working” and we will pay you for the next 60 days (and even beyond), then this is completely legal as long as they are not restricted from seeking other employment during this “notice period” Edit: IANAL

From what I hear from my personal connections at Twitter. They will be given 60 days pay so he is circumventing that California law.

It is a federal statute. Basically, one of the remedies that courts can impose is that 60 days pay in lieu of notice.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worker_Adjustment_and_Retraini...

Re: Twitter faces a class action lawsuit over mass employee layoffs with proper

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Post by pb7 »

freejazz wrote: post #214
pb7 wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>In a drug-induced haze, Elon offered to buy Twitter at a price that was a weed meme and after sobering up, went on a full court press in the media to get out of his deal. It required a absolute shitpounding There's no reason to take your comment seriously when you open like this. You clearly have a bias against the man and you're willing to run with assumptions as facts. Until there is evidence that Twitter was not…

Do you employment litigation? Have you read the complaint? Why should anyone take you seriously? You just seem like a Musk defender on a bent.

I probably like him even less than the average person in this discussion. Believe it or not, it's possible to take a neutral unbiased stance based on facts instead of foaming at the mouth at every opportunity. Even serial killers have lawyers defending them. No one should take me any more or less seriously than anyone else here and just like everyone else here I am entitled to voice my opinion.

Re: Twitter faces a class action lawsuit over mass employee layoffs with proper

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Post by Tangurena2 »

pbreit wrote: post #198
cronix wrote: post #2

> Additional plaintiffs, Justine De Caires, Jessica Pan, and Grae Kindel said they were terminated on November 3 by being locked out of their accounts. > Under Twitter’s takeover deal terms, Musk had agreed to keep employee compensation and benefits the same. That means the laid-off employees should receive 60 days of salary and the cash value of the stock they were to receive within three months of their last date a…

Does anyone know what WARN actually requires? If they are copensated for 60 days, does that suffice?

Yes.

> An employer who violates WARN provisions is liable to each employee for an amount equal to back pay and benefits for the period of the violation, up to 60 days.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worker_Adjustment_and_Retraini...

He learned his lesson from a similar large scale layoff at Tesla. The lawyers in this case were the same lawyers in the previous case.

Re: Twitter faces a class action lawsuit over mass employee layoffs with proper

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Post by Tangurena2 »

cmeacham98 wrote: post #206
blindriver wrote: post #160

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It's also wrong. According to the email they received, they are getting paid until Feb 2023, plus one vest of their RSUs from what I heard. There is no legal basis for a lawsuit.

Source? Do you work for Twitter? I haven't seen this claim anywhere. Edit: source is https://www.businessinsider.com/read-blunt-email-telling-twi...

Previously posted, this includes part of the email they got:

https://www.businessinsider.com/read-blunt-email-telling-twi...

Re: Twitter faces a class action lawsuit over mass employee layoffs with proper

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Post by freejazz »

pb7 wrote: post #223
freejazz wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you employment litigation? Have you read the complaint? Why should anyone take you seriously? You just seem like a Musk defender on a bent.

I probably like him even less than the average person in this discussion. Believe it or not, it's possible to take a neutral unbiased stance based on facts instead of foaming at the mouth at every opportunity. Even serial killers have lawyers defending them. No one should take me any more or less seriously than anyone else here and just like everyone else here I am entitled to voice my opinion.

It is possible? Amusing coming from the guy that went into a fit over the mention clutches pearls... drugs. I'll take note. As if Musk isn't known for getting high on weed or taking other drugs.

Who said you couldn't voice your opinion? I was pointing out you haven't given anyone any reason to take your post more seriously than the one you insist shouldn't be taken seriously.

Re: Twitter faces a class action lawsuit over mass employee layoffs with proper

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Post by rich_sasha »

baidifnaoxi wrote: post #15
cronix wrote: post #2

> Additional plaintiffs, Justine De Caires, Jessica Pan, and Grae Kindel said they were terminated on November 3 by being locked out of their accounts. > Under Twitter’s takeover deal terms, Musk had agreed to keep employee compensation and benefits the same. That means the laid-off employees should receive 60 days of salary and the cash value of the stock they were to receive within three months of their last date a…

This is exactly it. Terminated technically means, no longer receiving compensation or benefits. If Musk is basically saying “stop working” and we will pay you for the next 60 days (and even beyond), then this is completely legal as long as they are not restricted from seeking other employment during this “notice period” Edit: IANAL

Nitpick, but this kind of "paid but not working", also known as Garden Leave in the UK at least, often needs to be specified in the contract. Otherwise the employee could argue in some jurisdictions that this is demeaning behaviour etc.

No idea about the actual jurisdiction in question...

Re: Twitter faces a class action lawsuit over mass employee layoffs with proper

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Post by Tangurena2 »

ink_13 wrote: post #117
trynewideas wrote: post #54

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Are we sure HR wasn't laid off? The article notes Twitter didn't respond to a request for comment because the comms staff was laid off.

Another classic Musk maneuver. Tesla (in)famously doesn't have a PR department.

His PR department is his personal Twitter account.

Re: Twitter faces a class action lawsuit over mass employee layoffs with proper

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Post by pessimizer »

kodah wrote: post #180
ceejayoz wrote: post #80

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> you don't get to that level of businessmen without making all the right decisions C'mon; he literally just tried desperately to get out of the Twitter deal that's the direct cause of these layoffs. Jeff Bezos's decisions about where to stick his weiner cost him tens of billions of dollars. No one makes "all the right decisions".

> Jeff Bezos's decisions about where to stick his weiner cost him tens of billions of dollars. People are allowed to want to divorce without it being referred to as "where he sticks his weiner". I think what grosses me out is that revenge porn was laid thickly on top of this that people just actively ignored .

> People are allowed to want to divorce without it being referred to as "where he sticks his weiner".

No they're not. Getting a divorce doesn't give you the right to control how other people talk about your divorce.

> I think what grosses me out is that revenge porn was laid thickly on top of this that people just actively ignored.

People care about revenge porn because it hurts vulnerable people (i.e. the vast majority of us.) People don't give a shit about revenge porn about people who aren't vulnerable in any way.

Re: Twitter faces a class action lawsuit over mass employee layoffs with proper

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Post by pessimizer »

lovich wrote: post #203
none_to_remain wrote: post #189

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Pray tell, do you consider any other religions dangerous?

You’ll notice I’ll called out the line of thinking, but yes, I could critique many other religions lines of thinking. Do you believe that any belief is rendered safe solely by being under the umbrella of a religion?

Irrational beliefs are the only protected beliefs. If you can prove a belief could be seen as rational, it immediately loses protection.
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