NYC to require salary ranges be included in job postings

Post by djur » Mon, Oct 31, 2022, 9:47 PM UTC

boole1854 wrote: post #233

badpun wrote: post #228

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It can be dealt by creating high-paying higher rungs on career ladder and then promoting the 10x people there. So, regular SE position can have a salary range of say $120k-$150k, but principal senior staff ninja can have say $400k-$600k. That's how FAANGs do it basically.

I see that as being more helpful from a regulatory point of view (i.e., by providing a limited defense against claims of pay discrimination) than from an employee morale point of view. E.g., when people express dissatisfaction over the fact that those in the C-suite make X times what the average employee does, pointing out that the people in the C-suite have different titles or roles from the average employee doesn't…

Post by TulliusCicero » Mon, Oct 31, 2022, 10:14 PM UTC

missedthecue wrote: post #168

nathan_compton wrote: post #60

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"This is convenient for corporations so suck it up." isn't a very compelling argument. The purpose of the government is to represent the interests of the people in situations where there is sufficient agreement to pass legislation. If your company doesn't like complying with local laws, its easy, just don't look for people in this country. The people have a right to set the terms of exchanges in the marketplace.

That's a fairly uncharitable way to phrase his point. I think what he's getting at is that it is hard for market participants to accurately price goods and services when they are working with insufficient information. If I asked you to tell me how much you'd pay for a shirt, you'd either have to give me a wide range, or start asking questions to understand what you're getting. A formal tux dress shirtfront? A dirty o…

Post by rrrrrrrrrrrryan » Mon, Oct 31, 2022, 10:17 PM UTC

andrewstuart wrote: post #54

I'm a recruiter. I've known for a long time it drives people nuts that job ads don't have salary, or have a wide salary range. The fact is that many employers don't actually know what they would be willing to pay someone . Until they have met them, assessed them, heard what they salary target is and weighed it up against their skills and experience and calibrated it against the team. The conversation almost always go…

Post by joshuamorton » Mon, Oct 31, 2022, 10:40 PM UTC

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #176

> The sweeping New York City rules will apply to almost all companies except for the smallest firms. Any business with at least four workers, assuming at least one of them is based in the city, must include the lowest and highest salaries for any job it posts. ...so, uh, question, because I'm getting increasingly confused about how jurisdiction works. Let's say Houston passes a law which makes it illegal for companie…

Post by lotsofpulp » Mon, Oct 31, 2022, 10:51 PM UTC

NikolaNovak wrote: post #226

andrewstuart wrote: post #54

I'm a recruiter. I've known for a long time it drives people nuts that job ads don't have salary, or have a wide salary range. The fact is that many employers don't actually know what they would be willing to pay someone . Until they have met them, assessed them, heard what they salary target is and weighed it up against their skills and experience and calibrated it against the team. The conversation almost always go…

This has never been a popular / well received message on HN, but jives with my experience 100%. I've been a techie in the same company for 20 years; then I've become a lead and therefore hiring manager last few years. I'll open a seat for something I need, and may be able to specify a range of levels/bands that we are acceptable; but the salary hugely depends on the person - primarily their skills, experience, knowle…