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kingboss wrote: post #463
mupuff1234 wrote: post #443

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Isn't it the classic Apple saying that the people don't know what they want? Not to mention the whole 1984 ad being against the Microsoft walled garden. If anything Apple's own popularity proves that walled gardens should be dismantled at some point.

I like the walled garden. It's one of their competitive advantage. I don't want it dismantled. I don't want to androidify apple. And I am fine paying a premium to keep that walled garden and people who want it dismantled off the platform :)

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Post by BiteCode_dev »

lab14 wrote: post #492
BiteCode_dev wrote: post #464

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People smoke, use drugs, over eat and drive drunk if allowed to do so. Socially, people go back to abusing spouses, practice deshumanizing religious acts, elect politicians that just lied to them and buy products that have let them down before. We do a lot of things that bad for us, that doesn't mean it's a good thing. If heroin was legal, I'm pretty sure the company selling it would make a good quarter report as wel…

Did you really compare having an iPhone with abusing your wife and heroine addiction?

It implies that people on HN are intelligent enough to understand that analogies are not meant to be a one of one match instead of using it as an excuse to prepare for a twitter like outrage.

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such12 wrote: post #264
chollida1 wrote: post #44

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somewhat. They still provide some guidance on numbers both magnitude and direction, but don't release actual estimates. I'm confused now. You claimed to not really understand who makes these estimates and have no knowledge about how they are formed but it sounds like you do know a tiny bit about guidance? I mean you literally asked how these estimates were created?

Another reply since you edited your comment to add this: > I mean you literally asked how these estimates were created? Honestly, you genuinely seem confused. Where do you think I asked that question?

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Post by gt565k »

ladyanita22 wrote: post #470
gt565k wrote: post #339

I used to be a die hard android and Linux user, cuz you know it was all hip. I got frustrated with android phones never being updated in the early days. Linux always having video driver issues with multiple monitors and a crappy UI. A buddy gave me his old iPhone 5 to use when like the 7 or 8 was already out. The 5 was still better than my 1 year old android phone that I broke. Apple just gets hardware right. Id neve…

I wonder which 1 year old Android phone you had...

It was a long time ago. It was a flagship Motorola phone or something. Either way, the fact remains that android is fragmented as fuck. Has to support a whole bag of different hardware configurations and is quirky, then manufacturers abandon the hardware and don’t provide android os updates. Each manufacturer adds their own bloatware apps to the android ecosystem.

There’s a reason even 5-6 year old iPhones still work like a charm on iOS even today. The hardware is much better integrated and supported by the software.

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Post by mrkramer »

andrekandre wrote: post #445
mrkramer wrote: post #222

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>I’m very curious what would happen to Google and Meta if Apple announced they’re going to seriously pivot into ads with a revenue target of 100B per quarter. Real capitalism would start happening or in another words vigorous market competition.

> words vigorous market competition as a famous person once said about companies "the last thing anyone wants is competition"! * * https://www.wsj.com/articles/peter-thiel-competition-is-for-...

I meant vigorous market competition from the economical point of view not from the entrepreneur's point of view. But yeah the ultimate goal of every "for-profit" company is monopoly but the goal of every economist is vigorous market competition which improves quality of products and drives prices down.

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Post by scarface74 »

majou wrote: post #489
acer589 wrote: post #318

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It looks like the oldest phone with current support is from 2019. The 2017 iPhone is still getting OS updates. And up until September this year, the iPhone from 2015 was still on the current OS. Does any Android phone even get half long of a software update cycle?

iOS 12.5.6 was released in August to address a security vuln for the 5s, 6, etc. The 5s debuted Sept 2013 as the first 64-bit phone, and the first phone with a Secure Enclave, so I'm kind of hopeful they'll just keep limping it along forever for good will... I own a pair of them and adore them dearly. On the topic of iOS, be sure to check out https://libimobiledevice.org/ , which provides utilities like ifuse that wi…

Since around 2011, Apple has allowed you to download the “last compatible version” of apps from the App Store.

As of 2019 at least, I was able to reset my first ten iPad (2010) and redownload and use Netflix, Hulu, Crackle, Apple’s iWork suite, Spotify and play music that I had previously purchased from iTunes.

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Post by shuckles »

djbebs wrote: post #448
shuckles wrote: post #55

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In the United States, the research arm of banks are explicitly forbidden from working with the investment arms. So they are not the same people.

That makes no sense

The idea is aligning profit motive of investment with profit motive of selling analysis makes it too tempting to engage in price manipulation.

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Post by hanche »

tcmart14 wrote: post #162
tshaddox wrote: post #126

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> Apple makes one of the best in class of these devices, and has successfully designed one such that it's hard to switch to a competitor (rather it's easier to stay in the ecosystem). I wonder how many years it will take before I can convince some people that I actually just prefer Apple's phones to competing phones and that I'm not actually brainwashed or forced by Apple to never leave. But that's exactly what a bra…

I switched to my first iPhone last year and for me the determining factor was not feeling I had to constantly be on the upgrade path. I've has my iPhone SE (2020) and haven't been happier with a phone. A taken care of iPhone can theoretically last 7-8 years since that is how long an iPhone generally gets OS and security updates. Android is getting better on flagship phones, but still not as good. By some none flagshi…

> I switched to my first iPhone last year and for me the determining factor was not feeling I had to constantly be on the upgrade path. I've has my iPhone SE (2020) and haven't been happier with a phone.

Indeed. I am on my fourth iPhone, an 11 pro now three years old that I expect to keep for at least another year. More would be nice, but that probably requires a battery change. I had my two previous phones for four years each, no problem. I really don’t understand people who just have to get a new phone ever year or two (or three)!

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Post by ladyanita22 »

gt565k wrote: post #504
ladyanita22 wrote: post #470

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I wonder which 1 year old Android phone you had...

It was a long time ago. It was a flagship Motorola phone or something. Either way, the fact remains that android is fragmented as fuck. Has to support a whole bag of different hardware configurations and is quirky, then manufacturers abandon the hardware and don’t provide android os updates. Each manufacturer adds their own bloatware apps to the android ecosystem. There’s a reason even 5-6 year old iPhones still work…

An iPhone 5 has for sure less software support than whatever Motorola you had.

And no, there's no integration story. Android has issues iOS has not (and the other way around), but performance wise they're pretty comparable on similarly specced devices.

Unless you're comparing a flagship iPhone against a lowend Android, you won't see as big of a difference.

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Post by seti0Cha »

scarface74 wrote: post #360
seti0Cha wrote: post #305

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Status seeking is a fundamental motivation for people and catering to it has always been a source of wealth. In the past it was gold, silver, gems, ivory, beaver pelts, or purple dye. Now at least it's a device that performs a function.

How much of a “status symbol” is something that is owned by 50% of smart phone users in the US? Besides, Apple has been selling electronics more expensive than competitors for 40 years.

You're right, not much status in just owning an iPhone. You need to own the latest iPhone, preferably the "pro" model to gain status. However, you can lose status by having cheap or old gear. When I was a kid if you wore off-brand sneakers other kids would make fun of you. Now I understand that kids feel some pressure to appear with the right colored chat bubbles in iMessage. The status game is pretty complex.
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