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Post by pembrook »

KoftaBob wrote: post #453
andsoitis wrote: post #283

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> I simply can't believe that Apples revenue is larger than some of the biggest oil companies Then this might blow your mind even more: In 2017, at a market cap of more than $2.1 trillion, Apple's market capitalization is larger than 96% of country GDPs, a list that includes Italy, Brazil, Canada, and Russia. In fact, only seven countries in the world have a higher GDP than Apple's market cap.

GDP is essentially the total yearly revenue of a country, so it's not directly comparable to a companies market cap.

GDP isn’t the total revenue of a country, total tax receipts are.

If you think of the German government as a business, they generate roughly 2X the revenue of Apple, but with 5 million employees vs. Apple’s 150k.

Of course, the German government doesn’t optimize for growth and expansion like a company does (at least…not yet in this century… nervous laugh)

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Post by lab14 »

BiteCode_dev wrote: post #464
skc wrote: post #422

I actually like that Apple completely obliterates the fiction that people don't want a walled garden. It's such a minority as to be utterly irrelevant. These insane numbers prove it.

People smoke, use drugs, over eat and drive drunk if allowed to do so. Socially, people go back to abusing spouses, practice deshumanizing religious acts, elect politicians that just lied to them and buy products that have let them down before. We do a lot of things that bad for us, that doesn't mean it's a good thing. If heroin was legal, I'm pretty sure the company selling it would make a good quarter report as wel…

Did you really compare having an iPhone with abusing your wife and heroine addiction?

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Post by prepend »

fazfq wrote: post #135
prepend wrote: post #130

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I’ve had an iPhone since the original 4G. It’s always been an easy transfer. I have voice memos that have migrated since that very first one.

The other day I thought of that... I was wondering if there would be people walking around with an iPhone 14 with photos taken with the camera of an iPhone 1st gen which they transferred every time they upgraded.

Interestingly, my photos didn’t make it. But the voice memos and other app settings did. It’s actually neat because it’s the only recordings of loved ones who are no longer living and discovers serendipitously.

Originally it was syncing through iTunes but the past years it’s been iCloud syncing.

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Post by prepend »

smoldesu wrote: post #259
prepend wrote: post #129

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> The App Store is a fundamental de-facto monopoly on software distribution and (as we've seen with Spotify) service development. This would be true if Android didn’t exist. But it does, so apple isn’t. What would be funny is if Google stops developing android, since it’s lot lucrative, so they can sue under antitrust to improve their ad business that apple keeps hampering.

> This would be true if Android didn’t exist. But it does, so apple isn’t. This would be true if iOS and the App Store weren't separate entities. But they are, so it isn't. If Google stops contributing to the AOSP, they would not be able to sue under antitrust because Android still exists.

I don’t think Android would retain much market power, especially in the US and Europe, if Google stopped backing it.

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Post by b4je7d7wb »

smoldesu wrote: post #261
AOsborn wrote: post #258

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> That quite literally cannot be the status quo going forward. Honestly, I disagree. The Apple customer experience and product ecosystem is just so far ahead of any competitors I don't want to use anything else. As far as the store is concerned specifically, I want to be able to use one store with a clear policy around payments, subscriptions and refunds - not a myriad of half-baked competitors with fragmented offeri…

That's great, I support that option for you. Personally, I just want to use the Open Source apps that Apple won't let me install. If I can have that, then there's no reason we can't both live in perfect harmony. That system works perfectly fine on Android and Google even manages to make a handsome bundle off the Play Store to boot.

I want to be able to install free apps from the Appstore without providing credit card details

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Post by thathndude »

goosedragons wrote: post #465
skc wrote: post #422

I actually like that Apple completely obliterates the fiction that people don't want a walled garden. It's such a minority as to be utterly irrelevant. These insane numbers prove it.

How many know they want a walled garden or that they are even in one? I don't think most users realize or realize that Android allows getting apps outside the Play Store.

Very aware of it. Only care about 1% of the time, and the 1% isn’t a big deal.

Had Android until about iPhone 6. By that time, iPhone has closed the gap on the dealbreakers for me (and continues to do so). And once I acclimated to the iOS flow it was (and continues to be) a net-positive move. Imperfect, but net-positive.

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Post by endisneigh »

faeriechangling wrote: post #300
endisneigh wrote: post #158

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lol. The average iPhone user isn’t wasting their time managing fast mail, telegram and bitwarden. The whole value is that it’s seamless, across devices and Macs

More iPhone users use Windows than use MacOS. That's quite the seam and for this reason I generally recommend Bitwarden or Strongbox on iOS.

You can use iCloud passwords with windows.

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Post by jmeister »

endisneigh wrote: post #14

Apple is unbeatable, what numbers jeez. And to think, Apple’s main competitor being practically forced into giving them money is what saved them. The government should take something from this and not allow for too much consolidation. I’m sure apple giving a few billion to a few hundred small companies could yield some results. I’m very curious what would happen to Google and Meta if Apple announced they’re going to…

>The government should take something from this and not allow for too much consolidation.

What's wrong with consolidation on its own? This is the corporate version of "every billionaire is a policy failure". It is, on its own, a purely aesthetic preference. I'm sure people from ex-Soviet countries wouldn't find it jarring at all.

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Post by jonheller »

skc wrote: post #422

I actually like that Apple completely obliterates the fiction that people don't want a walled garden. It's such a minority as to be utterly irrelevant. These insane numbers prove it.

Or how about those that basically predicted Apple would cease to exist as a company for removing the headphone port, not having exchangeable batteries, or using a non-standard data/charging port on the iPhone.

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Post by kjreact »

leokennis wrote: post #13
pavlov wrote: post #7

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So Apple Watch and AirPods is almost as big a business as the Mac. Wow, I didn’t realize that. Quite a vindication of Tim Cook’s decade at the helm.

Don’t forget Tim Cook also brought you crummy gambling ads next to gambling addiction recovery apps on your $1500 phone.

> Don’t forget Tim Cook also brought you crummy gambling ads next to gambling addiction recovery apps on your $1500 phone.

This was obviously an oversight and the ads were halted when this came to light. Apple has never been good at dealing with ads, which is probably good since we don’t need a single company to takeover all markets.

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