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Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair

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Re: Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair

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> Why isn’t Tim Cook bragging about repairability? We had no idea this was coming, because Apple didn’t mention it—at all. But they should have.

I wonder how the team behind that redesign must have felt when they watched the keynote. Probably like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZCszIUcyVM

Re: Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair

#242

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Yeah but Apple has probably found that on average the insurance isn't worth buying, otherwise they wouldn't offer it at this price. I guess it's worth buying if you know you're gonna break your phone even more frequently than the average AppleCare+ user does (which is likely more than the average iPhone user), but those $30 fees and the waiting time to repair a phone aren't free.

AppleCare has always been a loss for Apple. The entire repair division is a loss for them. They don't make a profit from repairs. This update is partially marketing spin but, for a lot of users, it was worth buying before and is now even more of a value. If you look at the things that Apple prioritizes, they want to disincentivize self-repair because any quality variations reflect on them whether they did the repair…

Do you have a source for this? AppleCare+ for a MacBook Air is $250. You can get a 4 year 3rd party extended warranty for a similarly priced laptop off Amazon for $170. Presumably they make money off this but don't have advantages that Apple does like at cost repair parts.

Are Apple products such garbage or so hard to repair that shorter more expensive warranties lose money? Seriously?

Re: Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair

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> Forget satellite SOS and the larger camera, the headline is this: Apple has completely redesigned the internals of the iPhone 14 to make it easier to repair. I find this line hilarious because it's an example of law of the instrument[0]. iFixit and other activist repair shops treat these devices as if their(the iPhones) purpose is getting a repair and all this talk over they years about iPhone repairability was fro…

> but I never in my life purchased a brand new device with intention or plan to repair it

We all expect our devices to work forever and never break while we are still using them.

Yes, Apple handles the repairs, but they are _expensive_. If you are not in the US, chances are that some 'authorized' third party will repair it. So now you are into 'expensive' and potentially dodgy territory. I've seen substandard repairs over the years. One common issue is that a repair is done but FaceID (or Touch ID) no longer works.

Repair shops manage to repair some things but many repairs are not economically viable. A phone that's easy to repair is also cheaper to repair.

Case in point: you have to take your phone to a repair shop to replace the battery (unless you are pretty handy yourself). That costs money. When phones had removable batteries, repair labor cost was $0. Just get a new battery and replace yourself, in seconds.

Re: Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair

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Life-safety? Seriously? It's gun control and law enforcement problem, not the one of easy salvaging. Y'know, it's hard to imagine that someone in Europe or most of the Asia would be robbing at gunpoint for the smartphone. Risk/reward just does not match - it'll be most likely few years or even probation for simple robbery with good ol' bats, and tens of years for robbing at gunpoint, a good part of it from illegal fi…

>Life-safety? Seriously? It's gun control and law enforcement problem, not the one of easy salvaging. Y'know, it's hard to imagine that someone in Europe or most of the Asia would be robbing at gunpoint for the smartphone. Yeah, instead you’d be robbed at knifepoint. And if not at knifepoint, then by using any serious of improvised weapons.

A knife scares me far more than a gun up close, as a sharp knife causes massive damage to tissue and internal organs, while many are shot by pistols and live.

Re: Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair

#245

> It’s an upgrade so seamless that the best tech reviewers in the world didn’t notice. I think it’s bad taste on how he keeps on knocking tech reviewers. Of course they won’t notice because they don’t open phones for a living.

Maybe it is an oblique criticism or maybe it isn't.

It also implies this question: Best reviewers? Or most popular?

Re: Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair

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Now just put a usb-c port on the phone and allow me to use any web browser.

Web browsers, like communism, is a red herring. There would be absolutely no point to using alternative browser engines on an iPhone unless they got super special second party access. Not being able to run any downloaded code, no JIT, or extensions would make them useless, and allowing those things effectively breaks the iOS security model. Most obviously with screen time, and parental control, but Apple also disable…

Apples own browser downloads code that can download more code that itself can download even more code before finally executing the last bit of code.

The technology to secure it surely already exists or ios devices are already insecure.

Re: Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair

#248

Really happy to see this write up. I’m probably in the tank, but I genuinely believe that Apple strives to do right by its customers, and to be a good company. it’s not a nonprofit, and I don’t expect them to act like one. Sometimes I feel like people enjoy piling on because they are the big dog. Again, please don’t mistake this comment for a blindness to some of its operations. But it’s nice to see them get credit f…

I'd rather say they simply know that being evil is not a good look. It's still driven by profit, they just have a more holistic view on that.

Re: Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair

#249

> Forget satellite SOS and the larger camera, the headline is this: Apple has completely redesigned the internals of the iPhone 14 to make it easier to repair. HN:

This doesn't make any sense to me, considering it's being commented upon literally as you wrote that comment within days of the phones release.

This post was on the HN front page and made it all the way there without comment, mine being the first.

Re: Apple’s iPhone 14 Redesign for Repair

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In 13 years of using smartphones, I've needed exactly one out-of-warranty screen repair. And I don't even use a case. Not buying AppleCare+ has definitely saved me money. I can't see how Apple really loses money on this move unless people just start throwing their $1,000 pocket computers on the ground.

Maybe not for iphones, but macbooks have a habit of dying on me. My 10 day old macbook pro's logic board died and the replacement new macbook's palm rest started giving clicking sound within 10 days again. How can i be so unlucky. Apple certainly is overlooking QC with macbooks.

I qualified my statement with "out of warranty". I have had to take A logic board randomly dying 10 days after purchase would certainly be covered under the factory warranty.
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