Ukrainian version sounds cool. But also sounds like major pandering to me.
The Next Chapter for Learning on YouTube
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Re: The Next Chapter for Learning on YouTube
#292Can we go back to the chapter on YouTube where we had downvotes so we can tell whether or not a video is going to be high quality and informative or not?
I don't understand YouTube's move to remove the downvote button - cyber bullying? What I will say though is it actually hasn't stopped me from being able to identify a bad video. If a "bad" video had 1,000 upvotes and (previously) had 10,000 downvotes, combined with a high view count and engage via the comments, just removing the downvotes still tells me everything I need to know: 1,000 upvotes on a high view count v…
Re: The Next Chapter for Learning on YouTube
#293Next year, qualified creators can begin offering free or paid Courses to provide in-depth, structured learning experiences for viewers. Viewers who choose to buy a Course can watch the video ad-free and play it in the background. So you're cloning Udemy? Meh. Not much to be excited about so far. Finally, to help learners apply what they’ve learned, we’re introducing Quizzes — a new way for creators to help viewers te…
Quizzes ... I specifically looked that on up years ago, to be sure to make the plural correctly. It is still quiz. A quiz. Several quiz.
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#294Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Does anybody ever actually visit the "Community" tab of a channel? They don't want creators funneling users to external sites like Patreon. They want 100% of their income going through Youtube. Same reason they roll out the "most replayed" feature, to make it easier to skip in-video sponsor segments.
How does most replayed make it easy to skip sponsors?
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#295Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, but you as a consumer choose youtube, because you pretty much know that all the content there (from your home feed to search result, to related videos) is free. You start with a soldering tutorial, then click on the related video on how to solder SMD components, then a related video about how transistors work, then you find a nice documentary about the history of computing, about enigma, etc... so you click thro…
Anybody who has used YT for learning purposes will have quickly realized the limits of "free". There are numerous channels with click bait titles that are little more than upsells to their paid courses. Quality courses (not referring to pre-recorded uni lectures) are not given away for free.
Have to open a laptop to replace the hard drive? No service manual? Just google "XY-123 laptop disassembly", and you'll get a video. Now, a "XY-123 disassembly course", only $1.99.
Re: The Next Chapter for Learning on YouTube
#296I produce Music Tech-based educational content on YT. It started as a hobby and sideline to my main work (which at the time was classroom teaching of the same content). While I'm no longer working in classrooms (pandemic plus other reasons led to this), I'm still producing content, which I think is of good quality and worthwhile. The issue I have with it is that I refuse to produce attention-grabbing clickbaity title…
Yup.
The consumer's challenge is finding what they want (or need).
Is it ironic that a search company mostly uses recommenders?
Why not better search? Why not better foraging and browsing?
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Sole reliance on algorithmic recommenders, automated hate machines, has resulted in multiple negative outcomes. Existential threat to democracy, spike in teen suicides, accelerant for self radicalization, death of independent journalism, dominance of conspiratorial thinking, loss of public discourse, and probably a few more.
I'm sure search, foraging, and browsing strategies also have downsides. But I can't imagine how the outcomes could be worse.
Re: The Next Chapter for Learning on YouTube
#297Next year, qualified creators can begin offering free or paid Courses to provide in-depth, structured learning experiences for viewers. Viewers who choose to buy a Course can watch the video ad-free and play it in the background. So you're cloning Udemy? Meh. Not much to be excited about so far. Finally, to help learners apply what they’ve learned, we’re introducing Quizzes — a new way for creators to help viewers te…
>Does anybody ever actually visit the "Community" tab of a channel? They don't want creators funneling users to external sites like Patreon. They want 100% of their income going through Youtube. Same reason they roll out the "most replayed" feature, to make it easier to skip in-video sponsor segments.
Re: The Next Chapter for Learning on YouTube
#298Earlier quoted context omitted.
Anybody who has used YT for learning purposes will have quickly realized the limits of "free". There are numerous channels with click bait titles that are little more than upsells to their paid courses. Quality courses (not referring to pre-recorded uni lectures) are not given away for free.
Maybe not full longform courses, but there was A LOT of great free content. Have to open a laptop to replace the hard drive? No service manual? Just google "XY-123 laptop disassembly", and you'll get a video. Now, a "XY-123 disassembly course", only $1.99.
Re: The Next Chapter for Learning on YouTube
#299Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm a creator too. I'm small on YouTube (3,880 subs; 6.4k views and about 293 hours watched in the last 28 days), but have a (relatively speaking) large Discord with 3,800 members. I have a mailing list of about 1,600. My goal and focus is to sell, but it's to sell a big package around the idea of IT education. I want to sell to people who want the interaction and community, not just the knowledge dump. And I'm the s…
Hey 3880 subs is pretty good. I'm still on 241. haha. It actually takes a lot of effort to get past 1000 subs/5000 watch hours, which is the minimum for monetization.
I wouldn’t have built what became a $2000/month revenue website if I didn’t start making $2/month, then more work to get to $20/month, then 200, then 2000 over ~5 years.
YouTube is shooting itself in the foot with its monetization cutoffs.
Re: The Next Chapter for Learning on YouTube
#300Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Persuasive communication is important even outside of business. You said "outside of business," and then gave three examples of _asking for money_. You could have said "in dating," or "in electoral politics," but even in those examples, "persuasive" speech verges on "coercive" speech. > you can play the game with some ethics instead of not playing at all and losing out. In a darwinian competition, eg "the marketpla…
> In a darwinian competition, eg "the marketplace of ideas," ethics will always lose out to money I might be confused about the context or definitions, but I didn't read on any darwinian model that included notion of "losing out to". Did oaks lose out to orcas? Or was it the other way around? Sales were around before the industrial revolution and likely before the agrarian revolution. I'd conjecture that whether one…
Darwinian selection is the species versus the environment and this environment can include other species, as well as other individuals in the same species with slightly different traits, that will compete for similar resources as well as the climate.
It's very difficult to even think of who is actually a competitor of who, was Facebook a competitor to myspace? Youtube to myspace? Tumblr? Livejournal? These were all platforms competing for creators and attentions so I think they are all in a certain degree of competition.
I think a sale in this space is the gathering of attention (i.e. time and/or money). But thinking of what's required to actually learn might offer some insight on why it is hard to compete in this space. To learn people need to spend effort and although it can be made fun it is extremely difficult to be made effortless. On the other hand, entertainment is effortless but it offers little learning. So these are two parameters that need to be tuned. But I think the problem here is that the algorithm benefits entertainment much more than it does learning, entertainment is more valuable for youtube's ultimate purpose (to grab the viewers attention) and so to thrive on youtube people that want to offer learning have an uphill battle to fight.
So I think this move is Youtube acknowledging that learning is also desirable in society and can be pulled apart from the loop and monetise in its own way. In other words, it's an evolutionary split, cells all have a common ancestor but some cells evolved to harvest the sun energy while others evolved to harvest the energy of other cells. Learning being desirable has given rise to platforms such as coursera which are also multi-million businesses and Youtube probably sees them uploading most of their content to youtube anyway (usually as private videos), so why not adapt the platform a little bit to give existing creators a chance to stay on youtube instead of moving to other services?
This move won't really solve the problem of entertainment predating on people's time over learning (if we consider that a problem) but it's not really intending to do that. So I believe if we want to look at things from a darwinian perspective we have different angles to look at. Creators that produce entertainment content will probably still benefit more than the ones that produce hard to approach but very good learning material, why? because attention is the most valuable resource out there. This move offers little solution to that, but, on the other hand creators will have more tools inside the platform to manage learning which will completely change the current online learning business and we'll see platforms like edx and coursera in need of offering more value to pull themselves apart from youtube. Because users from these platforms (including youtube education) are already searching for valuable learning experiences we might see evolutionary jumps in this particular area. Though this might also be a race to the bottom where youtube captures the segment and then changes to optimise attention-seeking. We'll see.